Well, gov, good question. I have found that the service given here has, so far, outweighed the downside. I did not really care if the delay rule was put in or not, but now that it is, whatever I think ain't gonna matter anyways. Will it help my guns get closer to an actual realized value? Absolutely. Is there something wrong with wanting your wares to get more $ at their sale? No. Will auctions here now FORCE a buyer to pay more? Not if they don't WANT to pay more. I HAVE sold over on the other site, and have had some good experiences, and interestingly, FAR, FAR less deadbeats for whatever reason. But, I like the user friendly way this site is set up. I like the way photos are added, the invoicing system, the length of auction options, the Penny category, and just about everything about this site except it's size and dearth of advertising and brand recognition amongst computer savvy gun buyers. Guess that about covers it, and all of the aforementioned "stuff"  balanced out the lack of a delay at close. I find that the ease with which auctions are posted here takes less time, and time IS money. GB has their 15 minute delay, and it has made me some more $ there, but it ain't all "green" over there. Sorry for the long winded answer, but you asked! LOL! Take care.

brain, very well thought out response. I still feel that there is no forcing of bids as long as a buyer has it in his mind BEFORE he starts bidding what his maximum is. An item will STOP increasing in bids only when bids stop coming in. As long as you have entered your maximum in the Proxy system, you won't spend more than you wanted to. The buyer that wins will be the last bidder there IS, not the last one that the timer allowed. Sellers who start auctions at starting prices have picked where they want it to START, but the BUYER is the one who decides where it will END! OOPS, guess Hagrid will pick on me for posting yet ANOTHER post about this, like I care! Good post, brain......very BRAINY!

I've never used gunbroker or gunsamerica before, maybe I won't use any at all. I have several local dealers that won't rape me for another price every ten minutes. In my state it's easier to go to gun shows and buy from private people. It's a shame that greed ruined this site though. I guess there are liberals even in a firearm related site.

Schuylerboy, it is not the SELLER that is "raping" you with a new price every ten minutes. He is not raising the price.....your fellow BIDDERS are, just like at a regular live auction. The price raising STOPS when bidders stop raising the bid.

Lets be honest here. The system wasn't broken, some people just got a little more greedy.

AA said they asked around, well they didn't ask me, and I would like an honest answer as to how many buyers were contacted and how many buyers thought this was a good idea.

There are so many other items available on the other site compared to AA, and it isn't because they have the 15 min rule. A good self examination of who and what is being offered on AA, and what AA is doing to promote the site would be far more beneficial than tinkering with the format

If sellers want a "fair market value" for there items they should check the various sources to see what they are selling for and mark their items accordingly. No matter what site I look at, I will avoid any Reserve auction unless it has a buy it now because you have an auction in an auction. You want fair market value than put a fair price on it and put a "buy it now" on it.

Right now the seller is and always has been in the drivers seat. He puts the price on it that he wants to sell it for, or at least he should. If you don't want to have a real auction put your items in a classified or on a site that puts a price on it and thats what you pay.

AA seems to be the "good ole boys" site when you look at the forums and discussions, same old, same old. Gunbrokers seems the more professional site with less BS'ing sniping and more selling. If you want a site to be nothing but forums for the lonely fine, but don't go crying and tinkering with the format when the profits aren't meeting expectations.

The system at AA wasn't broken, and if it isn't broken, it doesn't nee fixin.

gun brokers and auction arms may be the same we don't know do we

Damn!!! Kan do,you may be on to something"The Great Gun Auction Conspirecy"

The one thing I found unique about AA was the ability to fix your sights on something you really wanted, then hunt it down at a bargain. I have done the countdown to end and scored some good deals, and I have had a high bid that lasted til the last minute and then got beaten by a buck. Either way there was sort of a "thrill of the hunt" sort of thing that didn't exist on the other sights. All win for sellers, loss for buyers.

Well I just did that today on a couple of beaters so I can redo them and sell them to a couple of guys that wanted me to do so And now I get to order another cylinder for one of them as well--ain't it grand fun fun fun