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| Thread Admin: AuctionArmsCeo (6-0-0) (Last 10 Posts) | Posted: 06/26/2008 at 17:53:31 |
| Total Posts: 55 |
Thread Title: "WE WIN!!!"
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| Thread Admin: AuctionArmsCeo (6-0-0) (Last 10 Posts) | Posted: 06/26/2008 at 17:53:31 |
| Total Posts: 55 |
Thread Title: "WE WIN!!!"
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| Former Seller: kats(438-0-0) | Post#11 - Posted: 07/02/2008 at 22:47:45 |
| (no avatar) | spikedmike - where did you get this from 'NO CALIFORNIA SALES'?
CA has a new law into effect on 7/1/2008 which requires any FFL to get an approval before shipping a firearm into CA or within CA. There are some dealers that are refussing to sell to CA residents as a result of that - but I've not heard of anything banning sales in CA. |
| Former Seller: ELDORADO 1(221-0-0) | Post#12 - Posted: 07/03/2008 at 01:43:04 |
| (no avatar) | ksts....He didn't say anything about banning sales. He is refering to dealers like myself that refuse to conspire with them in this violation of the Constitution. Go to one of my auctions and you will see what he is refering to. |
| Former Seller: kats(438-0-0) | Post#13 - Posted: 07/03/2008 at 08:29:34 |
| (no avatar) | eldorado1 - Thanks for your interpretation of 'Anybody now notice (as of the July 1st laws) NO CALIFORNIA SALES ??? NUFF SAID'.
Now that you bring that up - I can see that. That's what I get for responding to stuff when I'm ready for a nap. |
| Former Seller: Hagrid(23-0-0) | Post#14 - Posted: 07/04/2008 at 16:07:45 |
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Seems like Tom of Petesguns and I are the only ones who think the SJC sold us down the river. They left so much unsaid that they might have well said nothing. they ruled that the 2nd is an individual right. and that DC' ban was unconstitutional period.Then they spoke out the other side of their mouths and declared the State and Local govts can regulate firearms. So what they gave they took away. DCs new regs are just the tip of the iceberg.They will throw everything they can at us and do so legally because the SJC said they could. They cannot reverse themselves and they will allow liberal courts such as Cal and mass decide whos is to have what kind of gun when they think it is convient for the state. I predict that the laws we have here in mass will spread through out the land and saftey regs and 10lb trigger pull requirements and cocking indicators and no semi-autos and no semi-auto shotguns. Sound familiar? Try checking out Austrailia. They melted down millions of hunting arms in the name of public saftey. Thanks for nothing. Trapper |
| Former Seller: Petesguns(787-0-0) | Post#15 - Posted: 07/04/2008 at 16:47:50 |
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Come on Trapper, tell us what you REALLY think! Actually, it was good to see the decision in our "favor", but I agree that they left the door open. I also fear that we will see little net gain from this, though, I always HOPE we do. I guess that I feel this way from years of having our rights eroded away one at a time in Massholeachusetts. BUT, one can always hope. I sincerely hope Elitist is correct in his assessment, but as a former resident of, and still a shop owner in Stalag MA, I expect more of the same. |
| Former Seller: ELDORADO 1(221-0-0) | Post#16 - Posted: 07/04/2008 at 20:21:35 |
| (no avatar) | It's really quite simple Trapper and Pete's....The athority to regulate on a National Scale has casterated the Liberals in Washington like has never been done prior to 1934. We now have the basis of the case law being interpreted by the highest court in the land. We have been given the gift to supply us with the horsepower to strip all the gun laws that violate the Constitution which if you read the decesion process taken to establish the findings will ultimately destroy the offense of the anti's forever. Now is the time to support all the organizations that will fight in court to tie together all the infringements, and one by one.....just like they got there in the first place we will win these battles thereby unifying ALL Americans with equal rights. Soon the battles in Mass., California, Illinois, ect...ect..will be brought before the People to deciede and leave the Liberals scratching their heads wondering what happened. Elitist is right on the money when he told you this will not happen overnight, but it will happen. We need to support the NRA as much as we possibly can and we need to support our local gun clubs also as they will be the one's leading us into this long battle. And one by one by one by one......we will win. And Happy 4th of July to all and remember we have something to really celebrate this year. |
| Former Seller: Hagrid(23-0-0) | Post#17 - Posted: 07/05/2008 at 17:13:31 |
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Eldorado, I keep hearing how the SJCs decision castrated or nullified or in some manner damaged the lefts position on gun control.How did it castrate them? Was it the decision that the individual has the right to bear arms or the decision that the States and local govts have the power to regulate those arms out of existance? Maybe it was their decision that the DC ban was unconsitutional and the resident can keep a firearm in his house. That is as soon as you can tell me how he gets it from his dealer to his house as it is unlawful to carry outside of your home.Maybe it was the decision that trigger locks are no longer required Whoopee.I will say it one more time then no more. We got screwed.We got the decision that gun ownership is an indivual right not the collective. We got that banning a gun inside ones home is unconstitutional.We got that inside the home no trigger locks or disassembly is required. Period. All that is great.But the simple statement that the state and local govts can regulate firearms did more harm to the pro-gun movement than all the Brady bunches combined could do in a hundred years. It is the law of the land now that your mayor,chief of police,govenor, State legislators selectmen or whom ever is in control of the govts where you live can tell you what,where,when,who, shall have a firearm outside of their home. they also were given the right to license buy the SJC so that is the law of the land now. states like Vt that have no gun laws may now enact then without fear of their being overturned by the courts because it is THE LAW OF THE LAND. Trapper |
| Former Seller: ELDORADO 1(221-0-0) | Post#18 - Posted: 07/06/2008 at 08:08:00 |
| (no avatar) | Trapper....Sure it would have been nice to have a fairy sprinkle fairy dust over all gun laws and make them disappear but that is about as likely to happen as would be for the anti's to put in a call to Merlin and have him make all the guns disappear. What we have accomplished is a foundation with which to build on. When we have the SCJ ruling in favor of upholding the 2nd as an individual right as opposed to a collective right, it will serve as the rock solid foundation to go after all the rest of the laws that also violate OUR RIGHT. Trust me when I tell you that I am as angry as you are about where we are, but at least we now have that foundation to support us as we go forward in our offensive attack on the anti's to abolish the infringements that we have endured far too long. Keep the faith and watch how it will work to our advantage as we beat them one at a time and slowly but surely we will eliminate them and put this matter to rest once and for all. FOR LIBERTY |
| Former Seller: Kan Do Arms(70-0-0) | Post#19 - Posted: 07/06/2008 at 09:04:04 |
| (no avatar) | same ole people in place, on paper sounds good. what did we win |
| Former Seller: Hagrid(23-0-0) | Post#20 - Posted: 07/06/2008 at 13:38:47 |
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El, You miss my point. Where are we going to take them to defeat them one by one? The highest court in the land has ruled thatthey, who ever they may be, has the right to make as many laws as they wish as long as it is not a complete ban. open your eyes man and see the cabin burning. They ruled on the right of the individual to own a firearm IN HIS HOME period.Outside the home, the antis can do whatever they want because the highest court said that they could and who are you gonna appeal to? Trapper |
