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Thread Admin: AA-bob (2-0-0) (Last 10 Posts) Posted: 08/04/2007 at 00:23:47
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Thread Title: "Feeling Abandoned? We will NEVER abandon our customers!! from AuctionArms CEO"
AA-bob

Dear Valued AuctionArms customer:

You may have heard the recent news or received a message from EBay that they have taken yet another anti-Second Amendment position (their first was in 1999 when they abandoned their firearms sellers) .  They are now, once again, abandoning their good and faithful customers who sell firearms parts,  ammunition reloading components and reloading gear.  Here is that announcement:

***Message from Matt Halprin – New Listing Restrictions on Gun Parts***


July 30, 2007 | 10:00AM PST/PT

Matt Halprin

Hello everyone…In mid-August, we will be updating our Firearms, Weapons and Knives Policy to place more restrictions around gun-related items. Once these changes take effect, we will prohibit listings of any firearm part that is required for the firing of a gun. This includes items like bullet tips, brass casings and shells, barrels, slides, cylinders, magazines, firing pins, trigger assemblies, etc. Please read the Firearms, Weapons and Knives Policy for more details on our current policy.

As you may know, eBay does not allow the listing of any items which are regulated by individual states or the federal government; however, there are still a large number of firearm-related parts that are legal and are widely available in retail stores. These items have also historically been allowed on eBay.

After learning that some items purchased on eBay may have been used in the tragedy at Virginia Tech in April 2007, we felt that revisiting our policies was not only necessary, but the right thing to do. After much consideration, the Trust & Safety policy team – along with our executive leaders at eBay Inc. – have made the decision to further restrict more of these items than federal and state regulations require.

This new update continues to encourage safety among our community members and brings our policies in the U.S. and Canada in closer alignment with our existing policies in other markets around the globe.

Sincerely,

Matt Halprin
Vice President, Trust & Safety

We strongly disagree with eBay’s stance on the 2nd Amendment in general and specifically in their lackadaisical abandonment of their long and faithful customers.  We think it is unconscionable.  But hey, it’s their right, and we love them for helping us continue to build our business!

While eBay may have disdain for the 2nd Amendment rights of it’s customers, we here at Auctionarms believe you should be able to sell any legal item you may care to, especially firearms, firearms parts, ammunition, ammunition components and reloading gear…how else are you going to defend yourself against mad men and the evildoers who stalk innocents in those politically correct “gun free” zones?!

We believe you should have the right to sell these items in a free and open market.  We believe you should have the right to be free from fear of abandonment by a online sales venue that you've invested your time and money in to create profit for them and a reputation and goodwill for yourself.

We have proudly built our business and reputation on firearms.  We have for almost 10 years now.  We will continue to do so. We will not abandon our customers at the whim of some misguided, liberal minded, political correctness.  That is our pledge.

We invite all abandoned eBay seller to move your firearms, firearms parts, ammunition, ammunition reloading components and reloading gear immediately to AuctionArms.  Show eBay you can abandon them as quick as they abandon you and move to the BEST place on the internet for firearms and firearms related auctions!

We will make this solemn pledge to you.  WE WILL NEVER ABANDON OUR CUSTOMERS WHO ARE SELLING LEGAL ITEMS, NEVER”.

We pride ourselves on customer service.  We freely publish phone numbers through our “Contact Us” link that appears on every page.  (find a customer service phone number on eBay!).  We have real folks in the good old USA to talk to when you call those numbers.  We care about our customers and about the rights of our customers to fully enjoy their rights under the Second Amendment.

Top 10 Reasons to move to AuctionArms:

  1. We won't abandon you, ever.
  2. No Listing Fees:  There are never any fees to list an auction at AuctionArms and our selling commissions are much lower.
  3. Free sign-up: For abandoned Sellers signing up in August, we will eat the sign-up fee for new abandoned sellers moving from Ebay (normally $4)
  4. Free Auctions:  For abandoned Sellers signing up in August, we won't charge you for any Final Value Fees (sales commissions for the first month if you disclose your eBay seller’s nickname) in order to ease the transition and reward you investing in our learning curve.
  5.  Free Special Features: For abandoned Sellers signing up in August, we will give you free Special Features for your first month.
  6. Free over 200 Items listings: We will arrange to waive fees for added auctions if you list more than 200 items at a time.  Just let us know.
  7. Feedback Credit:  We will credit your Ebay Feedback record towards becoming a Penny Auctioneer (a highly popular and successful feature on our site).
  8. Retained eBay recognition:  We will provide recognition of your eBay earned feedback status and use of your eBay nickname (when available)  in order for you to salvage some of your hard earned goodwill and reputation.
  9. Free Introductions:  We will send an email letter of introduction to your past buyers at eBay, (you'll need to confidentially provide us with an emailing list) introducing them to your account at AuctionArms.
  10. Special Discounts:  We'll provide you with special discounts based on fees payment history with eBay for firearms parts, reloading components and reloading gear (we'll need you to confidentially disclose payment history with eBay to us to qualify for this benefit).
  11. Familiar categories:  To assist eBay’s newly abandoned sellers in moving their auctions to AuctionArms, we have reproduced their categories for firearms parts, reloading components and reloading gear so that they will be easily familiar to you.
  12. Support for pro-gun rights:  For every abandoned seller that signs up with us in the month of August,  We will be donate $ to the NRA Foundation.

OK, I lied, there are 12. As always we like to add special value for our sellers.

How can we offer all this free stuff?  Well, we are so confident that once you use AuctionArms to connect to our international customer base of like minded firearms enthusiasts and see how well we work for you, you will like what you see and stay with us.  You'll generate future sales and commissions and we'll all win.  How can you loose…frankly, you can't!

If you've received this message and are not an eBay seller, but have purchased these sorts of items from eBay sellers, do them and yourself a favor.  Forward this message on to them.  Help insure you will continue to enjoy a broad selection of firearms parts, reloading components and reloading gear through the convenience of the internet and at a Second Amendment friendly site!

Thanks for taking the time to read this message and thanks for being a customer at the BEST place on the internet for firearms auctions.  We appreciate your business and look forward to many years of providing you with unparalleled service.

Spread the Gospel!

Manny DelaCruz

Chief Executive Officer

AuctionArms.com, Inc.

The BEST place on the internet for firearms auctions!

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Former Seller: Firelane(140-1-0) Post#51 - Posted: 08/12/2007 at 01:16:13
(no avatar) truncatedcone, duh, wasn't thinking. Little slow there, wasn't I?

Thread Admin: AA-bob(2-0-0) Post#52 - Posted: 08/15/2007 at 17:33:46
AA-bob

BUSTED BY EBAY! My Post kicked off at eBay LOL!! Here's their note!

"We appreciate your participation in the eBay Community Forums.

"This email is to notify you that we unfortunately had to remove the following post that you made:

(2 ) View Listings | Report Aug-13-07 23:18 PDT 45 of 48

(Here was my post)"All of those items above can be sold (was refering to the new "banned" items) and are welcomed at AuctionArms.com.

In fact, I think they are offering some pretty good promotions to help abandoned eBay sellers transition to a 2nd Amendment friendly venue.

See their CEO's response to Halprins recent decree Letter from AuctionArms CEO"

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"In order for the community forums, which are based on the eBay Community Values, to be a place where all members can feel comfortable interacting with each other, there are certain types of posts that we have to remove if reported to us. The guidelines for posting in the forums are defined in the Board Usage Policy. Your post was specifically removed for the following reason:

"Advertising merchandise, auctions, services or commercial Web sites, including offers to trade, "wanted" posts, or charitable solicitations. For clarification of this policy, please visit this page: http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?threadID=410492031

"We understand that most posts that are removed were not intentional violations. Please take a moment to review the Board Usage Policy and policy explanations via the following URLs for clarification about the types of posts that we do allow:

"http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/everyone-boards.html
"http://forums.ebay.com/forum.jspa?forumID=2005

"Again, we value your participation in the forums, and we appreciate your support.

Well, someone else try!

Former Seller: Petesguns(461-0-0) Post#53 - Posted: 08/15/2007 at 19:48:32
Petesguns Well, go to ebay, click on the Community link on the home page. Click on the Discussion Forums, click on Outdoor Sports, and see my topic, "NOW WHAT For Gun Part Sellers?" Let's see how long THAT lasts???? Not long as soon as the ebay-police find it! Dosen't matter. Until they take the computer away from me, these posts will continue to show up! They'll have to ban me from the forums, but there is ALWAYS a different user name to use!

Buyer: mauser54J(0-0-0) Post#54 - Posted: 08/15/2007 at 21:54:15
(no avatar) Hi to all on AuctionArms. I to am a abandoned ebay seller and buyer. My last item I had up for sale on ebay was a new set of Millett Rings and bases for the mauser98 and ebay pulled my listing because I mentioned that I was moving my business. So far I haven't listed anything on AuctionArms, as I am in the process of watching how things are done here. So far I am well pleased with what I see, and I believe I am going to be real happy here. As far as I am concerned, ebay just cut their own throat. So be it. I am looking forward to being an active member here. Maybe with all the ex-ebayers moving here and the long standing members of AuctionArms we can build this site up to over exceed ebay and help put them out of business. Thankyou for the Welcome. mauser54j

Former Seller: Petesguns(461-0-0) Post#55 - Posted: 08/16/2007 at 07:27:13
Petesguns Welcome and ENJOY!!!

Former Seller: irishpj(50-0-1) Post#56 - Posted: 08/17/2007 at 11:11:57
(no avatar) Funny thing is,,,,There isnt really any "E-Bay Police"....Its members ratting on eachother! I had a German Hat that was cancelled twice,,,and another guy got to sell his. So I think people are ratting eachother out to benifit their own auctions.... I would love to see Auction Arms take off and be as big as E-Bay.... Maybe then the gun community will have a say in things,,,,,, Hats off to Auction Arms Good job,,,,,I'll mention to all sellers I can to come here in case of canncellation.......... Irishpj

Buyer: s10short(2-0-0) Post#57 - Posted: 08/17/2007 at 17:27:38
(no avatar) In the past I have bought 2 two firearms thru my ffl on auctiomarms but I have bought many gun parts,reloading equipmemt,bullets ,etc. on ebay now can I buy these items on auctionarms OR do I have to go thru my ffl? [s10short]

Former Seller: Joes Custom Guns(275-1-1) Post#58 - Posted: 08/17/2007 at 17:54:06
(no avatar) Only the reciver need to go through an FFL, Or a Firearm

Thread Admin: AA-bob(2-0-0) Post#59 - Posted: 08/17/2007 at 21:49:47
AA-bob

s10short, Only items classified as Firearms under the Gun Control Act of 1968 (usually the receiver and what might be attached to it at the time) need go through an FFL.

If you are unsure what compromises a reciever, post a note in the Gun Talk forum.

All other items can be freely sent by the common carrier of choice, or the US Postal Service, directly to your door.

We highly recommend for the benefit of both parties all items be sent with tracking numbers (required for firearms, no option), and things like Ammunition and firearms also be sent adult signature required.

Former Seller: slipnround(0-0-0) Post#60 - Posted: 08/18/2007 at 22:38:35
(no avatar) Thanks Bob, I'm all squared away and have a few items listed. Jim

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