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Thread Admin: AA-bob (2-0-0) (Last 10 Posts) Posted: 08/04/2007 at 00:23:47
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Thread Title: "Feeling Abandoned? We will NEVER abandon our customers!! from AuctionArms CEO"
AA-bob

Dear Valued AuctionArms customer:

You may have heard the recent news or received a message from EBay that they have taken yet another anti-Second Amendment position (their first was in 1999 when they abandoned their firearms sellers) .  They are now, once again, abandoning their good and faithful customers who sell firearms parts,  ammunition reloading components and reloading gear.  Here is that announcement:

***Message from Matt Halprin – New Listing Restrictions on Gun Parts***


July 30, 2007 | 10:00AM PST/PT

Matt Halprin

Hello everyone…In mid-August, we will be updating our Firearms, Weapons and Knives Policy to place more restrictions around gun-related items. Once these changes take effect, we will prohibit listings of any firearm part that is required for the firing of a gun. This includes items like bullet tips, brass casings and shells, barrels, slides, cylinders, magazines, firing pins, trigger assemblies, etc. Please read the Firearms, Weapons and Knives Policy for more details on our current policy.

As you may know, eBay does not allow the listing of any items which are regulated by individual states or the federal government; however, there are still a large number of firearm-related parts that are legal and are widely available in retail stores. These items have also historically been allowed on eBay.

After learning that some items purchased on eBay may have been used in the tragedy at Virginia Tech in April 2007, we felt that revisiting our policies was not only necessary, but the right thing to do. After much consideration, the Trust & Safety policy team – along with our executive leaders at eBay Inc. – have made the decision to further restrict more of these items than federal and state regulations require.

This new update continues to encourage safety among our community members and brings our policies in the U.S. and Canada in closer alignment with our existing policies in other markets around the globe.

Sincerely,

Matt Halprin
Vice President, Trust & Safety

We strongly disagree with eBay’s stance on the 2nd Amendment in general and specifically in their lackadaisical abandonment of their long and faithful customers.  We think it is unconscionable.  But hey, it’s their right, and we love them for helping us continue to build our business!

While eBay may have disdain for the 2nd Amendment rights of it’s customers, we here at Auctionarms believe you should be able to sell any legal item you may care to, especially firearms, firearms parts, ammunition, ammunition components and reloading gear…how else are you going to defend yourself against mad men and the evildoers who stalk innocents in those politically correct “gun free” zones?!

We believe you should have the right to sell these items in a free and open market.  We believe you should have the right to be free from fear of abandonment by a online sales venue that you've invested your time and money in to create profit for them and a reputation and goodwill for yourself.

We have proudly built our business and reputation on firearms.  We have for almost 10 years now.  We will continue to do so. We will not abandon our customers at the whim of some misguided, liberal minded, political correctness.  That is our pledge.

We invite all abandoned eBay seller to move your firearms, firearms parts, ammunition, ammunition reloading components and reloading gear immediately to AuctionArms.  Show eBay you can abandon them as quick as they abandon you and move to the BEST place on the internet for firearms and firearms related auctions!

We will make this solemn pledge to you.  WE WILL NEVER ABANDON OUR CUSTOMERS WHO ARE SELLING LEGAL ITEMS, NEVER”.

We pride ourselves on customer service.  We freely publish phone numbers through our “Contact Us” link that appears on every page.  (find a customer service phone number on eBay!).  We have real folks in the good old USA to talk to when you call those numbers.  We care about our customers and about the rights of our customers to fully enjoy their rights under the Second Amendment.

Top 10 Reasons to move to AuctionArms:

  1. We won't abandon you, ever.
  2. No Listing Fees:  There are never any fees to list an auction at AuctionArms and our selling commissions are much lower.
  3. Free sign-up: For abandoned Sellers signing up in August, we will eat the sign-up fee for new abandoned sellers moving from Ebay (normally $4)
  4. Free Auctions:  For abandoned Sellers signing up in August, we won't charge you for any Final Value Fees (sales commissions for the first month if you disclose your eBay seller’s nickname) in order to ease the transition and reward you investing in our learning curve.
  5.  Free Special Features: For abandoned Sellers signing up in August, we will give you free Special Features for your first month.
  6. Free over 200 Items listings: We will arrange to waive fees for added auctions if you list more than 200 items at a time.  Just let us know.
  7. Feedback Credit:  We will credit your Ebay Feedback record towards becoming a Penny Auctioneer (a highly popular and successful feature on our site).
  8. Retained eBay recognition:  We will provide recognition of your eBay earned feedback status and use of your eBay nickname (when available)  in order for you to salvage some of your hard earned goodwill and reputation.
  9. Free Introductions:  We will send an email letter of introduction to your past buyers at eBay, (you'll need to confidentially provide us with an emailing list) introducing them to your account at AuctionArms.
  10. Special Discounts:  We'll provide you with special discounts based on fees payment history with eBay for firearms parts, reloading components and reloading gear (we'll need you to confidentially disclose payment history with eBay to us to qualify for this benefit).
  11. Familiar categories:  To assist eBay’s newly abandoned sellers in moving their auctions to AuctionArms, we have reproduced their categories for firearms parts, reloading components and reloading gear so that they will be easily familiar to you.
  12. Support for pro-gun rights:  For every abandoned seller that signs up with us in the month of August,  We will be donate $ to the NRA Foundation.

OK, I lied, there are 12. As always we like to add special value for our sellers.

How can we offer all this free stuff?  Well, we are so confident that once you use AuctionArms to connect to our international customer base of like minded firearms enthusiasts and see how well we work for you, you will like what you see and stay with us.  You'll generate future sales and commissions and we'll all win.  How can you loose…frankly, you can't!

If you've received this message and are not an eBay seller, but have purchased these sorts of items from eBay sellers, do them and yourself a favor.  Forward this message on to them.  Help insure you will continue to enjoy a broad selection of firearms parts, reloading components and reloading gear through the convenience of the internet and at a Second Amendment friendly site!

Thanks for taking the time to read this message and thanks for being a customer at the BEST place on the internet for firearms auctions.  We appreciate your business and look forward to many years of providing you with unparalleled service.

Spread the Gospel!

Manny DelaCruz

Chief Executive Officer

AuctionArms.com, Inc.

The BEST place on the internet for firearms auctions!
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Thread Admin: AA-bob(2-0-0) Post#61 - Posted: 08/19/2007 at 15:57:10
AA-bob slipnround, welcome to the BEST palce on the internet for firearms auctions! Let your past customers know where you're dealing!

Former Seller: slipnround(0-0-0) Post#62 - Posted: 08/20/2007 at 16:59:37
(no avatar) AA-Bob, I bundled all of my customers and emailed them where I am, and told them what a great bunch of guys y'all are here, sorta like visiting my home state "Welcome Home" West Virginia. Thanks for all you've done and are doing for not only me, but for all of us Refugee's from eBay. Jim

Thread Admin: AA-bob(2-0-0) Post#63 - Posted: 08/20/2007 at 17:54:55
AA-bob

slipnround, WHOOO-HOOOO. Good news and thanks for the support and trust you've placed in AuctionArms. We appreciate your business!

Do be careful of the "Hammerheads" you'll find lurking here, they have a habit of pullin' chains each chance they get. They can be abrasive and will take you top task in a minute, but can't think of a better group to have covering my six.

Former Seller: Kan Do Arms(70-0-0) Post#64 - Posted: 08/21/2007 at 09:29:16
(no avatar) I WAS JUST LURKING AROUND. YEP AND WE DO GET THING DONE AND WE CAN GET THING STARTED TOO.

Former Seller: LIKTOSHOOT(6-0-0) Post#65 - Posted: 08/21/2007 at 16:33:36
(no avatar) Nope, they won`t leave you hanging. But if you have great feedback from other places......you don`t rate-PERIOD!!! Trying for the big bang.......after years of club med. Hope you like it dry!! I tried to move and have my "EXCELLENT" feedback used as a start-NO DEAL!!! YOU MUST EARN 40 POSITIVE FEEDBACKS FOR PENNY AUCTIONS!! But if your from eBAy, we don`t care, sign up........we love multi-money much more. These are the folks to trust............yep!?? LTS

Former Seller: Firelane(140-1-0) Post#66 - Posted: 08/22/2007 at 04:41:12
(no avatar) LIKTOSHOOT, you really ought to have a conversation with AA-Bob. You might be surprised what can transpire if you try having a civil, adult pow-wow. Have you tried it, especially since this eBay thing? Or, are you happier just sitting back and taking whinny potshots, and not actually interested in moving forward? If that's the case, then do what you have to do, but please tell me that I'm not gonna have to read posts like the last one forever. I might be wrong, but I don't think that anybody's getting penny status on firearms based on their eBay feedback. And, if you've got positive feedback from eBay, talk to AA, they seem willing to work with that with folks who've migrated pre-eBay ban. Keep going the way you have been, without trying some new dialogue, and you ain't gonna get squat.

Former Seller: Petesguns(470-0-0) Post#67 - Posted: 08/24/2007 at 06:29:59
Petesguns LTS, yep, you can catch a whole lot more flies with sugar than with your brand of vinegar. If you have ANY established feedback record ANYWHERE else, bring it to Bob's attention. If you do have such, and fail to follow through with talking to Bob, then that failure is on you, and not on the site. As a seller that has used ebay as well, I can assure you that a positive feedback record earned on Ebay is VERY hard to get, since there are SO many members that love to post neutral or negatives, just because, and ebay will not mediate the problem, and remove retaliatory feedback like AA does. Consequently, what with the jerks that post negatively just because they can, accquiring a positive record there is very hard, and I can assure you, well earned.

Former Seller: quickdraw4u(1-0-0) Post#68 - Posted: 09/01/2007 at 19:34:12
(no avatar) Hello, I'm on ebutts as quickdraw4u(385) No negatives! Also check me out on Gunbroker. I moved my account to AA and am really looking forward to working with you guys on AA. I can't believe how far political correctness has gone on your former competitors site. Looking forward to moving my seller's account to AA. I am also a buyer but don't get to use that one too much as my wife isn't as enthralled with guns as I am.

Buyer: S.H Panda(0-0-0) Post#69 - Posted: 01/31/2008 at 11:40:58
(no avatar) For Matt and Manny. Good to read the comments about "not abnadoning" your customer base. I'm a new guy, and apparently have fallen into a cross-fire from some of the folks who frequently post on GUN TALK and POLITICS and HUNTING STORIES/JOKES sections. Joe's Custom Guns seems to be the main antagonist, so far- he has said that if I am not buying or selling I should get off this site- he doesn't appreciate my comments, which is his right and I don't dispute that. I replied to him the other day that I am not a collector,I am a casual hunter -birds, ducks, deer- and have taken up Sporting Clays. From a careful reading of all the threads, and this being an election year, and I was a political science minor at U of M- chemistry major, I find it strange that some of your readership base, myself included, are fervent supporters of the Second Amendment- yet forget that the First One gives us all the right to free speech- granted, not the right to yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater. I am fluent in German, ever since my childhood, and have translated some of the words found on both German and Austrian mfg. firearms and passed them on- I also have several weapons from the Fatherland- pre-WW11 family heirlooms- I don't shoot them, but have had them appraised. I have a 12 ga. Browning 525 Sporting Clays shotgun, an older Winchester M12 Featherweight pump 12 I use for pheasants and quail, a Remington 870 12ga. pump in black synthetic stock for waterfowl, a Weatherby Vanguard ,270 with Zeiss scope for deer, a Ruger 10/22 with Leupold scope for small game and target shooting, a older Colt Service Ace .22 pistol for our Winter Pistol League, and a Para-Ordanace .45ACP for a house and defense carry weapon. At Xmas I bought my wife a slightly used Browning Citori 20 ga- for her intro into Sporting Clays this coming Spring, and some bird hunting with me this coming Fall. She has a LightWeight S&W .38 Special with hammer shrould and short barrel for her carry weapon. I would judge that this might be quite a bit less than some of the others seem to have, especially those that specialize in varmint or long range rifle shooting, black powder and cowboy style, and those who own and shoot military weapons. I was never in the service- they had the draft lottery system in effect when I graduated from HS-I suppose I could have joined the ROTC on Campus, but joined a fraternity instead. One thing more- even though I have seen other examples of foul language in some of the threads that were not deleted, I was warned by your A.I.C. thread monitor to use more disgression in the jokes and stories I had inserted- he felt it necessary to delete some, and as he's holding "Kings Full" against my two pair- well. I just want to make sure we aren't following the George Orwellian Animal Farm theory her- "All animals are equal, some are more equal". I never submitted any racist or zenophobically oriented jokes, just frat house humor, as we share in our poker and hunting guy groups- I apologized to A.I.C. (and now to you) for this, it will NOT happen again. As this is the only website I frequent regarding firearms, and I enjoy the political/religious/world history/threads as posted by Kenman, Fyrd, Axolotol and others, I plan to remain. Thanks

Thread Admin: AA-bob(3-0-0) Post#70 - Posted: 02/07/2008 at 01:31:28
AA-bob Thanks for the post, we all live an learn, Appreciate your cooperation. Have fun!

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