| Thread Admin: AA-bob (3-0-0) (Last 10 Posts) | Posted: 03/22/2009 at 13:17:51 |
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Thread Title: "See recent changes to AuctionArms Terms and Conditions"
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| Thread Admin: AA-bob(3-0-0) | Post#11 - Posted: 03/26/2009 at 19:11:59 |
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We are still formulating those requirements. As you know we have been BETA testing this for about a year with a few selected sellers, and have been able to formulate what we think is a good set of Ts&Cs for transacting the actual Storefront items business. Likely to qualify for a StoreFront, a Storefront seller account will need to meet some requirements similar to those we use to qualify Penny Auctioneers, pay a monthly fee in addition to normal transaction fees in order to maintain a storefront. This will likely depend on our completion of the actual "StoreFront" page or GUI (Graphical User Interface) that StoreFront sellers will then be able to use to display all the items in their store in one location. Watch this Forum for additional news as it develops. |
| Former Seller: Petesguns(1005-0-0) | Post#12 - Posted: 03/27/2009 at 05:23:09 |
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Well, OK, Bob, but this IS about your T&C. You state the following: "Don't include extras with the picture(s) if not included in the Auction".
To not go a bit further and say that props to aid in the sale such as a pair of hands, a wall with hooks, a dowel through the trigger guard, a drop cloth, or even a name plate to mark the photos as your own, only invites certain types of people to nit pick and "blow the whistle", even when they live in glass houses. SO......go the extra mile and add a codocil to allow the use of such COMMON SENSE items to portray the item for salre, or we will continue to see such nonsense and whistle blowing. Otherwise, to conform to the T&C as written, we will have to photograph our guns in a vaccuum, floating in outer space. Am I being facetious? Of course. Am I describing EXACTLY what happens as the T&C are currently written? You KNOW I am. SO, fix 'em and we will ALL be better off. |
| Former Seller: gov2mod(2203-0-0) | Post#13 - Posted: 03/27/2009 at 06:38:07 |
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Petesguns, that's exactly right. A little common sense goes a long way. |
| Former Seller: WILLIE TA(1478-0-1) | Post#14 - Posted: 03/27/2009 at 06:48:35 |
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MY QUESTION IS WHY CAN A STORE SELLER SELL HIS HOLSTERS WITH GUNS IN THEM TO SELL THEM WHEN THE GUN IS NOT INCLUDED. I DID IT BECAUSE PEOPLE ASKED TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WITH A GUN IN MINE AND I GOT A WARNING. WHY ARE RULES DIFFERENT IN THAT RESPECT. WOULD REALLY LIKE AN ANSWER TO THIS! |
| Former Seller: Petesguns(1005-0-0) | Post#15 - Posted: 03/27/2009 at 06:59:11 |
| Former Seller: WILLIE TA(1478-0-1) | Post#16 - Posted: 03/27/2009 at 07:45:36 |
| Former Seller: Bubba J(66-0-0) | Post#17 - Posted: 03/27/2009 at 09:48:49 |
| Thread Admin: AA-bob(3-0-0) | Post#18 - Posted: 03/27/2009 at 11:04:30 |
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OK, I agree, Common sense does seem to be at a premium... especially in these forums sometimes. This requirement is in the Terms and Conditions to protect our buyers and will be enforced after the fact if a buyer complains he did not receive items pictured in the auction. Sellers, you CAN put whatever you want in the auction pictures, but you do it at risk of being requested to provide the item as a part of the sale as a result of violating this term. If you want to take the risk, well that's your business. I do use judgement and common sense of course, when adjudicating these claims, (No, of course you don't get the toes, the shoes, the parrot, the little dog, the gun shop in the background or any of the other silly examples proposed here, and I'll laugh at you if you ask). But if it's a close call, all benefit of the doubt goes to the BUYER. That said you sellers include items in an auction picture at your own risk. Some sellers for instance, try to take advantage of the system by saying things like "scope not included" or "Scope not included but available" On these, the scope goes with the deal as far as I'm concerned as it is either 1)an attempt to induce a buyer to bid thinking he's getting something he's not or 2) just an outright obvious attempt to conduct an off-auction sale after the fact or 3) just plain laziness on the seller's part. If some one wants to see how guns look in a holster, let them ask and send them pictures if you want. The bottom line guys is we don't want items included in auction pictures that would mislead a potential buyer on what he is getting if he just looks at the pictures alone. I do believe that our least common denominator on the site is barely literate. Pictures are powerful selling tools, as you all know, however words can be misinterpreted, missed or completely misunderstood. |
| Former Seller: WILLIE TA(1478-0-1) | Post#19 - Posted: 03/27/2009 at 11:36:00 |
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BOB....DOES THAT MEAN IF I BID ON ONE OF THE STORE SELLERS HOLSTERS AND IT HAS THE GUN IN IT I GET IT AND YOU ENFORCE IT. YOU FAILED TO ANSWER THAT PART OF MY QUESTION. |
| Former Seller: Bubba J(66-0-0) | Post#20 - Posted: 03/27/2009 at 11:36:11 |