Make: E. Remington
Model: Joseph Rider Compact Pocket Model, Factory Cartridge Converted
Serial Number: 4121
Year of Manufacture: 1870-1873.
Caliber: .32 Short Rimfire
Action Type: 5-Shot Double / Single (Converted to Double Action Only) Cartridge Firing Revolver
Markings: The top of the barrel is marked “MANUFACTURED BY REMINGTONS', ILION, N.Y. / RIDERS PT. AUG, 17, 1858 MAY 3, 1859". The underside of the barrel, underside of the frame forward of the trigger and inside of the grips are marked correctly for serial number "4121". The rear of the cylinder is marked "621", the cap is marked "62".
Barrel Length: 3”
Sights / Optics: The front sight is a bead, which is dovetailed onto the barrel. The rear sight is a V groove on top of the frame.
Stock Configuration & Condition: The grips are checkered brown hard rubber with nice fit to the grip frame. The butt of the grip frame is "S" shaped. The butt of the left panel has a chip repair, there is rubbing and a few scattered marks. The grips rate in about Good overall condition.
Type of Finish: Nickel, with German silver trigger guard.
Finish Originality: The revolver looks to have been refinished a long time ago, however the trigger guard, cylinder and cap appear to have their original finish.
Bore Condition: The bore is mostly semi-bright with a few scabs of surface erosion, the rifling is highly defined.
Overall Condition: The metal under the finish shows cleaned erosion, but only a few sanding marks, whoever did the work retained most of the markings. The current finish has several dings and scuffing as photographed; a few spots of new erosion through the finish are seen. The left side plate has some deeper erosion under the finish, with nice fit to the frame at the edges. The screw heads show tooling. The markings are clear except for the serial number under the barrel. Overall, this handgun rates in about Fair to Good condition.
Mechanics: The hammer does not cock back in single action but runs well in double action, however the cylinder is not engaged and does not turn. The pistol is marked correctly under the frame for a factory cartridge conversion. We did not fire this handgun. As with all used firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance requirements.
Box, Paperwork & Accessories: Included is an 8x4x1-3/4" hardwood display box of obvious vintage, not bearing any makers marks; the inside has a green cloth liner that has some wear and stains from age, the box is in about Very Good condition. Also included is a vintage Peters box for .32 Short Rimfire, of which 42 rounds are provided; some are wadcutter and actually fit in the cylinder, the conical projectiles are slightly too big for the cylinder, we do not recommend firing the revolver with this ammunition; the surfaces of the ammo have corrosion, some have "P" head stamps, a few have tiny, faded markings, please see our pictures. The box is very fragile with torn corners and some losses, the box is glued into the box and the lid is removable. According to federal law we must ship the ammo separately from the pistol, hence the slightly higher shipping price.
Our Assessment: According to Flayderman's Guide to Antique Firearms, the first mass produced American double action cartridge revolver was designed by Joseph Rider in collaboration with Remington's company. This one was made towards the end of production and was a factory cartridge conversion to the original percussion model. The included display case and ammunition go great with this little revolver, it should do great in your library or office and probably has many interesting stories to tell.
CA Legal or CA Private Party Transferable: This antique handgun can be sold in California. This handgun CAN be transferred as a dealer sale in California but CANNOT be sold as a PPT. All cartridge firing handguns (even C&R's and antiques) sold to a California resident must be DROS'd. This does not apply to out of state residents.
LSB#: 161128LV71 Make: E. Remington Model: Joseph Rider Compact Pocket Model, Factory Cartridge Converted Serial Number: 4121 Year of Manufacture: 1870-1873.
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