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| Former Seller: Joes Custom Guns(252-1-1) | Post#1 - Posted: 03/27/2007 at 12:05:56 |
| (no avatar) | You do not need FFL. service to ship long guns,Only handguns,but you need to ship to an FFL and let the buyer pick it up. The safest way to ship is in a hard case,They will cost from $10.00 to $20.00,You must Insure,and ship by traceable means I use the USPS for all my shipping,because UPS is 20mi. one way for me and is only open 2hr. in the eveing |
| Seller: axolotl(120-0-0) | Post#2 - Posted: 03/27/2007 at 12:10:29 |
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Atraff; ship only in a hardcase. Speaking only for myself, i will pay extra for it to insure that any item i purchase gets to me intact. Plus i can re-use it. You can buy cheap ones for under 20.00. Add to that the estimated cost of shipping. You can go to USPS or UPS`s web site for rates on sizes and weights to your buyers zip code. I will not add any handling charges to my auctions. You should be able to ship through one of them for a total of about 35.00 or less including the case. You dont need an FFL to ship a long gun to an FFL holder. Your buyer should provide that paperwork from his. State these terms in your auction. Answer all question as soon as possible and treat your buyer as you would like to be treated. Your bidders will appreciate you being up front with them. I am sure that some of our other posters will come forward with suggestions that i`ve overlooked. Welcome to AA. axolotl |
| Former Seller: c3shooter(29-0-0) | Post#3 - Posted: 03/27/2007 at 16:13:30 |
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To the advice from Ax, I would add- the hardcase needs to be INSIDE a box. Otherwise, it LOOKS like a gun! |
| Former Seller: Yone(278-0-1) | Post#4 - Posted: 03/27/2007 at 18:22:22 |
| (no avatar) | One other bit of advice. Of course use a hard case but do everything you can to shorten the box. I always take the barrel off a shotgun and take the stock off a rifle. Then it doesn't look like a gun and the chance of damage is nil. Tks |
| Thread Admin: atraff(0-0-0) | Post#5 - Posted: 03/27/2007 at 21:17:59 |
| (no avatar) | Thanks everyone, Andy |
| Former Seller: MillstoneSports(1-0-0) | Post#6 - Posted: 03/28/2007 at 15:09:38 |
| (no avatar) | I am a definite newbie... a newbie buyer AND soon to be a newbie seller (shortly after my wife discovers how much I've bought at AA!) I do not hold an FFL. I think I'm discerning from this and other discussions that I need to engage an FFL-holder to ship a handgun to the receipient's FFL-holder... in other words, involving an FFL-holder on both ends. Am I getting that right? Many thanks. |
| Former Seller: c3shooter(29-0-0) | Post#7 - Posted: 03/28/2007 at 15:46:49 |
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MNDoug- If you are not a FFL holder, you CAN ship a handgun TO a FFL holder- by UPS Air. Not by mail. However, the cost is so high, you may be better off having a local FFL mail it FOR you. |
| Seller: Elitist(89-0-0) | Post#8 - Posted: 03/28/2007 at 17:55:16 |
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Strictly speaking, any "common carrier" (such as a freight transporter or courier service) can transport a handgun legally from anyone to an FFL. If you use the most "common" common carriers, UPS and/or FEDEX, you're required (by them, not the law) to use their expensive service. There are other carriers who could do it, and would do it for less, but they are less able to provide complete coverage of the country.
IF you know an FFL who'll do it for you free or for a nominal sum, it's worth having him ship handguns, because HE is allowed to use the Postal Service for these, as a licensee. However, you can yourself directly ship long guns through the Postal Service to any legal recipient (usually, but not always, an FFL holder) without any extra paperwork. Long guns are specifically listed as "mailable" in the Domestic Mail Manual, and any postal clerk who says otherwise should be told to look it up. (And you might point out that the CMP sends their guns out by Registered Mail directly to the buyers, no FFL involvement at all...) If the FFL holder is going to charge you a substantial sum, which in addition to the postage is going to come to the equivalent of the FEDEX/UPS charge, simply ship it yourself. There's no need to have an FFL to ship it TO an FFL holder. One more point worth mentioning: the requirement for an FFL to receive ONLY applies to INTERSTATE sales (except in a few states where all transactions have to go through dealers by state law). It is legal for one resident of a state to sned a firearm to another resident of the SAME state, and no Federal paperwork or dealer involvement is needed; nor, in the case on an INTRASTATE sale, need the recipient have an FFL. This is a private-party transaction between two residents of the same stste and the Feds don't have jurisdiction over it. |
| Former Seller: MillstoneSports(1-0-0) | Post#9 - Posted: 03/28/2007 at 17:58:13 |
| (no avatar) | Wow... thank you for the thoughtful and thorough explanation! Great advice. |
| Former Seller: OLD RATTLER(137-0-0) | Post#10 - Posted: 03/28/2007 at 18:00:24 |
| (no avatar) | You can always count on Elitist. |