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Thread Admin: Dust 2 Dollars (1474-0-4) Posted: 07/19/2012 at 15:10:03
Total Posts: 39
Thread Title: "The Best & The Worst of Selling on AA. PART 3"
Dust 2 Dollars

The FIX!!

There is nothing wrong with saying, you know we tried something and it isn’t taking us where we thought it would. So hey, let’s go back to what got us here and worked the best for our sellers. Because we at AA finally figured it out!! Without sellers on the site, we won’t have a site!! New and we thought it would be better has made many a good company go by the wayside.

Just my thoughts on how things are going here on Auction Arms…. Oh sorry, GunAuctoin.com

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Buyer: wabbitshooter1(0-0-0) Post#1 - Posted: 07/19/2012 at 20:32:22
wabbitshooter1

wow, D2D, tell us what you REALLY think! Well said, actually. Many businesses get so self important that they forget where they came from and who got them there. I agree with everything you said. If I was a seller I might likethe 10 minute rule but as a buyer I hate it. I have not bought anything here yet but have lost out on plenty on the other site due to their 15 min rule and the inability to snipe. The thing I gotta add is that some businesses are innovators. AUCTIONARMS used to be one of those. Now, they seem to be happy being a follower and simply keeping up with the Jones's by just copying their competition.Innovators lead the way...........sheep follow. Gunsheep.com seems to be doing just that.

 

You are also right in that this "new" site has bugs that has disrupted the flow of business. However, when a technogeek gets thier teeth into something like this there aint no turning back. Me fears that the site will continue to get more compliactaed and harder to use. Case in point, nowhere does there appear a users guide to the new site. Things are added peicemeal here and there and the "eye" was just that until someone decided to click on it to see what it was. classic was definitelty better. My bet isit will be gone in less than a year and all will be stuck being new and improved......NOT. pity.

Former Seller: OLD RATTLER(211-0-0) Post#2 - Posted: 07/19/2012 at 20:56:46
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Dust 2 Dollars 1474-0-4,I would surmise that your feelins are shared by more than a few.

WILLIE TA is all but gone. PETE'S GUNS is gone, ONE OLD MARINE is gone, and I am aware of other BIG sellers that are really lookin hard at leavin. I really hate to see this site go but from what I can see from the outside lookin in I am afraid it is only a matter of time.

A runaway train with an engineer at the controls that will listen to noone has but one ending.

SAD

DAM SHAME TOOFrown

Buyer: wabbitshooter1(0-0-0) Post#3 - Posted: 07/19/2012 at 21:21:38
wabbitshooter1

Former Seller: OLD RATTLER(211-0-0) Post#4 - Posted: 07/19/2012 at 21:23:11
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wabbitshooter; I love that. Only you would think of it.

Buyer: wabbitshooter1(0-0-0) Post#5 - Posted: 07/19/2012 at 21:30:25
wabbitshooter1

you got DAT wight!

come back heah you wassciwy twain dwiver! wayah did he go????

Seller: Sportsmanssupply(16502-0-8) Post#6 - Posted: 07/20/2012 at 07:43:02
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Dust 2 Dollars,

Well written by a caring seller.

I never cared for the argument on the 10 minute option. I agree with your argument and have made the same one. However I don't think its been a bad thing with the exception of the prevailing don't change a thing if its not broken argument. With that logic AA wouldn't even exist. Gun Sellers would just never use it because the 0ld way wasn't broken.

Owners who Invent new and better ways are the ones who grow. The problem hasn't been change. Effective change is what's needed. Second guessing after failures is just part of the cost of failure on AA's part.

Seller: Sportsmanssupply(16502-0-8) Post#7 - Posted: 07/20/2012 at 07:44:53
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The waskly wabbit always made good suggestions.

Buyer: MBurkeaso(1-0-0) Post#8 - Posted: 07/20/2012 at 11:06:33
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D2D I agree with a lot of your points, I am a buyer not a seller.  Too many of the changes here seem to work against the buyer. The new CC payment is one of the first ever that I can say will benefit me as a buyer.  I think people misjudge why buyers shop online. 

For me it is a chance to actually find what I am looking for.  Like most guys I have a running list of guns that I would buy tomorrow if they turned up.  The reduced number of items here on AA/GA is one of the reasons that I rarely find anything I am interested in.  I will admit that I am a small niche consumer (left handed firearms/big bores/doubles and drillings/european makers) but I find more of what I am looking for among the 40 pages on the other site.  The size of this site isn't a problem its the lack of variety and the lack of really good deals.  In my opinion this site is where you go find a standard deal on a standard gun.  No real bargains and no real losses.  Years back I used to tell people to buy on GB and sell here, you could make a little in the flips.  Thats changed in the last four or five years.

Watching a particular category of items for a any length of time is indicative of the lack of inventory here.  Sellers are recycling their expired auctions with no changes, there are literally dozens of examples of the same auctions being relisted over and over without a price change for up to a year in some cases.  This does nothing for the site or the buyers.  I personally think AA/GA should charge for the third relist if it does not include a price change. This would force sellers to price items to sell as opposed to kust listing it online, hoping that if it sells here fine if not it will sell in the shop or at the show. 

Sellers should reevaluate why they entered the online marketplace and what their potential customers are looking for.  D2Ds penny auctions are a great example of something that is working.  I think too many sellers are assumng that if they just hang in and relist the item enough they'll eventually get a sucker to bite. 

I find that I spend 3x or 4x the amount of time on the other sites than I do here.  I can take a look at the left hand rifles and shotguns in 3 minutes and tell if anything new has listed.  If it has I view it, if not click/click and I am shopping in another store. 

 

Buyer: sittinback(77-0-0) Post#9 - Posted: 07/21/2012 at 12:16:06
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MB ...I agree with just about everything you posted.  Over the past 11+ years I've bought several firearms from both AA and GB.  I've always thought GB offered the better price/deals but also felt the AA sellers offered a bit better quality product.  Times have changed and the 'deals' are few and far between.  Today I continue to 'shop' AA because I've come to trust a handful of sellers.  I find myself checking specific gun categories to get an idea of what's selling and at what price.  When I see auctions 'roll over' again and again because of no bidding action, I understand that the gun is considered overvalued by the market at this particular time ...so I wait.  ...or go look on GB to see if I can find the same at a better price (recently have done so and got a really nice Radom for about 60% of what sellers on AA were asking).  Both sites have their plusses and minuses.  Bottom line for me ...if I could only use one site to buy it would be GB ...and I would hope that my favorite AA sellers would use both AA and GB (as one does already.)

Seller: j308t22(21-0-0) Post#10 - Posted: 07/26/2012 at 07:37:09
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I used to be a huge fan of AA, with the new name sounding a lot like Gunbroker. However, it appears many dealers have shifted to the other site since the number and varity of items is dropping at a alaming rate. When I use this site I look only at CAF Sales. They have very honest descriptions, reasonable rates and fast service. I know there are other very good dealers here but some of their shipping cost are unreasonable. If CAF Sales were to leave I believe that would end Auctionarms or whatever they are called now. That is really too bad since this used to be the number one site.

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