Well, I may be pathetic and hateful, but I don't have enough sense to be sad about it!  Have a great day, Brad.

tomon I don't put you in that group of people but it you are that way you have my sympathy.

Brad; All was deleted but left me with the impression that the response to you was completely uncalled for. Why anyone would treat a great source of information as you are, like that leaves me absolutely speechless. Information is our greatest treasure. And there was no charge for it. Glad you are able to take things like this in stride. axolotl

Like I said Some people are so full of hate that they would cut there own throat if they thought it would hurt the person they hate. Or lie, slander, and speak all manner of falsehoods right up to and including wanting to kill those they hate.

Ax, I to am left almost speechless and would have been except for the brazen falsehoods spoken.

Brad - I'm not a reloader and this is the first time I've even been on this forum and what is the first thing I find?  A fine gentleman such as yourself having been maligned.  'Tis a sad state of affairs, indeed.

However, let us reach back into the wisdom of antiquity to find the balm:  "Illegitimi non est carborundum!"

That's Latin for "Don't let the bastards wear you down!"  You know what you are and the good people here know what you are.  Nobody else's opinion counts.

Thank you all for the encouraging words.

It's unfortunate that meeting other AA members is so hard to do because what's said in print does not always come across like it would face to face. The potential for a misunderstanding is real good given what kind of "tone" might be (mis)read into someone's post.  It's a shame that for all we have in common we still have these squabbles. In any case, I was hoping to hear your answer to OMJ because I'm having similar problems with tight chambering reloads in several calibers. The reloaded rounds will chamber but there is a little resistance closing the bolt; not so much that I have to force it but enough that I'm wondering if these rounds are safe to fire. All cases have been full length resized and trimmed to length before AND after resizing. The resizing dies heve been adjusted to meet the shellholder at the top of the stroke. The outside diameter of the necks on the loaded rounds are within specifications. Using another cartridge case as a gauge, for example a fired .308 Winchester case neck slips over the neck of a loaded 7mm-08 cartridge, the shoulder seems O.K. at the datum line, however it appears the shoulder hasn't been pushed back far enough at the neck-shouder junction. What gives? I'm having this problem in .223 (Hornady dies) .308 and 7mm08 (Lee dies) and .243 (RCBS dies).

I will, of course, defer to AIC but I would like to respond to truncatedcone's post.  I have been reloading since 1958 and have picked up a few tricks along the way.  The condition you describe is optimum.  You have checked the case neck diameter, the case length, and you need to make sure the bullet is not crunching into the rifling.  Once you have determined that that stuff is OK, a slight crush fit, cartridge to chamber, is perfect--you will have no headspace problems and your cases will last longer.  You will probably lose your cases to neck splits before you lose any to head separations.  All reloading presses have a bit of "spring"; even the old Rockchuckers.  When you adjust your dies to touch the shell holder and then size a case, the press will spring a little bit and the die will move away from the shell holder at the top of the stroke.  We are only talking about a few thousandths.  Should you wish to eliminate the crush fit, you will need to adjust your dies to bump the shell holder hard.  I am not sure how many cartridges I reload for but at last count there were a few more than 100 die sets on my shelves.  I try for the slight crush fit whenever I load bottle-neck cartridges.  I hope this helps and sorry if I've stolen this thread. 

Rusty, thanks for your response. Regarding bullet/rifling contact, I feel good about having no contact, having set up the seating depth with the bullets loaded using a Stoney Point OAL gauge. Sounds like at this point I'm basically neck sizing with a FL die?

Your method may work fine for a single bolt action rifle but...

You may have issues if you try to run that same ammo in a different bolt gun (slightly different chamber) or an autoloader. I would be bumping the shoulder back just a bit more if I were you. Consider it as insurance that your reloads will be able to fit and cycle easily in any chamber...

Dillon makes case gages in .223 and .308 that will help you to quickly set your dies correctly each and every time. Awesome tool to have in my opinion. In some cases you may need a 'little more' adjustment and there is nothing wrong with filing down the top of a shellholder a slight bit to help you get it.