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Thread Admin: AuctionArmsCeo (0-0-0) (Last 10 Posts) Posted: 09/17/2004 at 12:25:11
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Thread Title: "Seller Fee Changes Starting Nov 1st..."
AuctionArmsCeo Starting November 1st, Auction Arms will now charge a nominal listing fee for Reserve Auctions. Given that the vast majority of Reserve Auctions listed at Auction Arms do not sell, we are attempting to cut down on auctions where the seller doesn't list a realistic reserve price, by requiring a listing fee of $0.50 for every Reserve Auction listed, regardless of the reserve. If the auction sells, the listing fee will not be charged at the close of the auction. This is not an uncommon practice among online auction houses, and we're hopeful that it will substantially improve the quality of Reserve Auctions at Auction Arms.

Also, starting November 1st, we will charge a volume fee of $0.25 for every auction created above a 200 auction limit. This volume fee only applies to NON-Firearms related categories, and to auctions being run concurrently. In other words, if you list more than 200 auctions at once, in a category other than a gun category, you're going to be paying a non-refundable listing fee of $0.25 - on top of any other fees you might accrue. We are doing this in an attempt to cut down on the number of items that get listed, but don't sell because the seller is essentially SPAMMING up the site. Any sellers who feel they have a successful track record of selling in NON-Firearms related categories while listing more than 200 auctions at once are encouraged to contact Bob Lancaster at Bob@AuctionArms.com for a waiver.

These are small changes that will not directly affect the vast majority of sellers at Auction Arms, but will hopefully improve the quality of sales for all users - which is something we can all appreciate. Thanks!
-manny
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Former Seller: RetirementJob(45-0-0) Post#1 - Posted: 09/24/2004 at 16:27:36
(no avatar) I disagree with this change. I don't see how it will benefit the seller. Its just an unfriendly gesture that is going to get passed along to the buyer in the form of a higher sales price. Remember that everything you do here is ultimately costing the buyer.

Former Seller: WILLIE TA(577-0-0) Post#2 - Posted: 09/25/2004 at 10:35:41
WILLIE TA

HELLO DAVE WHAT'S THE PROBLEM LISTING A BASIC AUCTION AT THE RESERVE PRICE? I THINK MORE ITEMS ARE SOLD THAT WAY THAN ON RESERVE AUCTIONS. BESIDES WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE RESERVE THEY DON'T WANT TO WASTE TIME AND TRY BIDDING. ALSO IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT ITEM PUT A BUY IT NOW ON IT! ECONOMICS SHOWS THAT IF YOU SELL MORE ITEMS AT LESS OF A PROFIT YOU MAKE MORE MONEY!! GOOD LUCK SELLING!!

Buyer: tdnathens(0-0-0) Post#3 - Posted: 09/25/2004 at 15:03:57
(no avatar) I glad you are doing this.Reserve auctions are a pain, too many unrealistic prices. It just fills the site with guns that never sell.

Former Seller: havegunwt(0-0-0) Post#4 - Posted: 09/26/2004 at 13:36:55
(no avatar) It sounds to me like there are too many people out there who don't understand the concept of auction fever. If you put something on for sale and put a reasonable reserve on it, and it goes over your reserve, then that is just part of the fun of an auction. I personally like to set my reserve at a bare minimum, because I like to sell in volume. If I make a couple of bucks then I'm happy. If it goes over my reserve , then that is just iceing on the cake. These days too many people are making it all about money. I say sell 'em at a reasonable profit, sell as many as you can, and have fun with it. Try thinking about the Historical value of most of these guns. If you don't enjoy that part of it, then you need to find a new "Hobby". Stop trying to get rich on one gun, quit bitchin' and most of all have fun!!

Former Seller: ramlaser(920-0-0) Post#5 - Posted: 10/04/2004 at 08:29:11
(no avatar) In regards to the .25 fee for non firearms related catagoried. What catagories will these fees be incured upon? Seems like this will take away alot of low dollar itmes that do sell and also take away some pretty good deals for buyers.

Seller: AA-bob(0-0-0) Post#6 - Posted: 10/04/2004 at 18:10:32
AA-bob The fees will be applied in all Non-firearms categories:

Firearms Categories are:

  • Firearms : Class III
  • Firearms : Commemoratives
  • Firearms : Cowboy Action Shooting
  • Firearms : Curios & Relics
  • Firearms : Derringers
  • Firearms : Double Rifles
  • Firearms : Drillings
  • Firearms : Fine European Firearms
  • Firearms : Pre 1898
  • Firearms : Revolver
  • Firearms : Rifle
  • Firearms : Rifle & Shotgun Combos
  • Firearms : Semi-Auto Pistol
  • Firearms : Shotgun
  • Firearms : Single-Shot

Former Seller: Kaycee(340-0-0) Post#7 - Posted: 10/05/2004 at 18:28:01
(no avatar) Auction Arms wouldn't have had to start charging for posting items if sellers would have observed the rule about SPAMMING. Instead of spamming an item sellers should have listed under 'Dutch Auctions'. All spamming does it take up space, causes buyers to quit searching a category. If you don't think its a problem look in the 'Air Gun' catergory see how much spammed items 'Simple Auctions' has listed. I hope Auction Arms goes after people selling items on the 'Wish List' next. This is a great site, but a certain way to destroy it is selling without paying the fee's for listing an item. My thoughts! Bill

Former Seller: gov2mod(1028-0-0) Post#8 - Posted: 10/06/2004 at 04:49:25
gov2mod I don't totally agree. While I think "spamming" to be listing one item many times I think when you when you actually have say 5 of the identical item, then it makes more sense to me to list it several times instead of a dutch auction. For one, in a dutch auction you usually only get the opening bid. No one is bidding against another for the same item as there are more than one. Also I feel by listing the item once, on several nights of the week you have a better chance of the "browsing" shopper to find it. I buy a lot more items when I am browsing thru the "going, going, gone" section just by stumbling across it and "Hey, I've got to have it" than by going to the search section. I feel multiple listings (when you actually have that quantity) gives the seller a better chance at a sale. I do agree that some sellers with a dozen listings of the same item, when they only have the one, is wrong and is cluttering up the site.

Former Seller: Kaycee(340-0-0) Post#9 - Posted: 10/06/2004 at 07:31:38
(no avatar) gov2mod, I agree with you about posting items to close on different times if the seller has them in stock. What I'm talking about is a sucession of the same items listed one after the other with the same closing times. That's what Auction Arms defines as 'Spamming'. Having to scroll past 5 to 10 or more of the same item is ludicious. I have been watching this activity increase for a couple years now. I haven't noticed any great rush to buy those items, in fact after watching several items, none of them have sold. Its just a few sellers who can't abide by the simple rules set out by Auction Arms. I have also noticed a couple sellers have started complying with the rules lately. Again just my opinion and observations. Bill

Former Seller: gov2mod(1028-0-0) Post#10 - Posted: 10/06/2004 at 09:30:02
gov2mod Kaycee, I agree about the people that have so many of the same item at the same time. I try to not have more than one of any itme on any one day. Sometimes when I relist a day late I end up with two of an item. When this happens I make sure I don't do it the next time. I'll just have to cut back around the end of this month as a lot of my items are inexpensive items and I don't want to have to pay the extra fee. After a few weeks one could start losing money.

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