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|Former Seller: Joes Custom Guns(334-2-1)||Post#1 - Posted: 04/05/2008 at 08:58:07|
|(no avatar)||Is that the one that Sears recalled|
|Seller: Hartwell Gun(888-1-2)||Post#2 - Posted: 04/05/2008 at 10:41:10|
|Sears at one time was paying money for just the bolts,so you will find many more guns than bolts out there.|
|Former Seller: WALI(16-0-0)||Post#3 - Posted: 04/05/2008 at 14:50:15|
|win88man, hartwell is right. I have a J>C> 583 that makes a FINE DOOR STOP... they were recalled...(bolts & not replaced) WALI...|
|Seller: AA-bob(3-0-0)||Post#4 - Posted: 04/05/2008 at 15:07:52|
|win88man, from the info posted here, you may not WANT one. Sounds like any you might find are unsafe in some way.|
|Former Seller: c3shooter(33-0-0)||Post#5 - Posted: 04/05/2008 at 16:42:47|
|Winn88- There WAS a recall on some Sears 12 bolt actions- cut & paste: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Sears Issues Voluntary Recall on J.C. Higgins Shotgun HOFFMAN ESTATES, Ill., March 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Sears, Roebuck and Co. (NYSE: S) today announced a voluntary recall of J.C. Higgins Bolt Action 12-Gauge shotguns, a product manufactured for and sold by the company during the 1950s. The shotguns are being voluntary recalled due to a potential problem with the bolt latch assembly, which could cause the assembly to fail allowing it to dislodge and strike the operator in the face. Sears is offering a $160 finders' fee for the return of the bolt, making the shotgun inoperable. The shotguns were sold in Sears stores and through its catalog as the "J.C. Higgins Bolt Action 12-Gauge Model 10 Shotgun" during the 1950s. It was carried under a number of product numbers: 583.13, 583.14, 583.15, 583.16, 583.17, 583.18, 583.19, 583.20, 583.21 and 583.22. The product model number is engraved on the barrel of the shotgun. Consumers are advised to immediately stop using the shotgun. Call 800-817-9165 for identification verification and instructions on return procedures. Sears, Roebuck and Co. discontinued the sale of all firearms and ammunition in the early 1980s. Through its network of more than 830 full-line stores and 2,500 off-the-mall stores, Sears is a leading retailer of apparel, home and automotive products and services, serving more than 50 million households. SOURCE Sears, Roebuck and Co. End cut & paste I understand that Sears has now ended their "buy back" on bolts- but problem was a design flaw, and there is no commercial source of replacement bolts. Sorry- You CAN make a floorlamp for the "man cave" outa one- or a closet rod, electrical ground rod, or what most of us call a " 'mater stake"|
|Seller: Petesguns(685-0-0)||Post#6 - Posted: 04/05/2008 at 17:43:21|
|Up here in VT where we have 9 months of winter and three months of tough sledding, we call 'em driveway plow markers! Have SEVERAL without bolts.....want some more??|
|Seller: Hartwell Gun(888-1-2)||Post#7 - Posted: 04/05/2008 at 19:43:08|
|They make nice floor lamps.|
|Seller: ELDORADO 1(203-0-0)||Post#8 - Posted: 04/07/2008 at 06:21:05|
|(no avatar)||Back when they were having the recall I was sending in all the bolts that came in the store in these guns until they notified me that I had reached my limit of 10 per year....huh???? Some recall huh? I still didn't want to sell anymore considering that they may be unsafe so I was intentionally blowing up the barrels and removing the bolts and gave them to hunter safety instructors to use as examples to show people what happens with an obstructed bore, an overcharged load, the wrong cartridge shot ect.....
You know I learned something too.....those dang guns are hard to blow up! I actually had no damage to any of them while shooting tied down to a tire in the bottom of a ditch and pulling trigger with a string when I loaded several double charged loads and even some triple charged loads. I had them fire with no damage with the bore stuck in mud and then fired a double charge load and no damage resulted. I crammed a 20ga shell down the barrel as far as it would go then backed up with a 12ga triple charged load and that did burst the barrel but not as bad as I would have thought. The only way I was finally able to get the bananna peel effect was to take a oversized lead swaging slug and hammer it into the end of the barrel and then fire with a double charged load.
But the most interesting thing that I realized through the course of blowing up over 8 of these is this.......No bolt failures occured on any of them.
I currently have two of them for sale in my shop and have no worries anymore about selling or shooting them. JMHO Anybody ever experienced a failure with one?
|Seller: Sportsmanssupply(2988-0-3)||Post#9 - Posted: 04/07/2008 at 11:53:53|
|(no avatar)||In Feb 2006 I listed one here.I got a neutral feedback because the buyer had all sorts of problems with it.It sold for $39 and he felt he was robbed.Very angry.Just letting you know I think you saved your self some headaches.|
|Buyer: deputydog214(5-0-0)||Post#10 - Posted: 04/07/2008 at 12:50:34|
|(no avatar)||The recall is baseless. It was the result of a person who was injured when he opened the bolt of of a model 10 jc higgins 583 3 12 gauge bolt action shotgun . The defect was not a result of actully firing,or the gun blowing up. The problem was that the bolt stop screw had been stripped which allowed the bolt to come out. The shooter pulled the bolt out so fast and hard that it came out the gun and struck him in the eye. This accident was actually the fault of user . He should have not used the gun with stripped or missing bolt stop screw.If he did he should of atleast been a little more carefull. Any gun no matter how well made can be dangerous when put in service with defects . Sears recalled the guns to protect themselves. The model 10 was Sears own product they had bought the rights to manufacture the from Harrington & Richardson .H&R actually made almost the same model before WW2. It was known as m H&R 120 gamester. For Sears they were called 105 Ranger. After WW2 Sears bought the H&R Riesing pattent and had High Standard manufacture an improved version under the JC Higgins name [sears owned a good size part of High standard back then] the model 10 was made from 1945 to 1956 .In good condition they are one of the best bolt action shotguns ever made, and of higher quality than any thing in their class. They are very strong and safe shotguns. Sears is no longer buying bolts or recalling them no one knows how many perfectly good shotguns were ruined buy one mans stupidity .My advice would be If you have one have it checked by a compitent gun smith and enjoy it. Or stake the screw so it does not loosen and fall out. They are old fashioned classics and still good hunters.|