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Thread Admin: Hagrid (13-0-0) Posted: 01/12/2008 at 07:24:55
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Thread Title: "NEW FEE CHARGES?"
Hagrid Check out auction # 8429864 Browning A-Bolt for auction seller wants a 4% handling fee on top of shipping charges. Add in the always used 3 to 4% for credit card and ffl fees and you have added roughly 100.00 to the price of this rifle if sold for 600.00. Have these sellers gone nuts? Add a hundred bucks to any rifle and I can buy it retail from any storefront and most of them will sell it a lot less than retail.Even with the States sales tax added it is cheaper. The monitors of this site must be slipping. It used to be a good place to find a decent deal but now with the sellers getting greedy and adding on all these little extras,and the site allowing out of stock items being auctioned and generic pictures allowed,against site rules I might add, it is starting to turn green. I know that a seller can charge what ever they want but I do not have to buy and that is the name of the game. No sales,no profits for anybody. Trapper
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Former Seller: Yone(364-0-1) Post#1 - Posted: 01/12/2008 at 10:33:35
(no avatar) Trap-- The biggest problem as I see it is it is no longer cost effective to wade thru all the high priced crap. This guy Wholesalehunter has over 9600 listings. He put his entire store inventory on AA including stuff he doesn't even have. He's not the only one, AA has dozens of sellers that fall into the same catagory. I sure don't worry about sellers that overcharge. They just don't get my bid. Tks

Former Seller: Joes Custom Guns(322-2-1) Post#2 - Posted: 01/12/2008 at 12:00:56
(no avatar) As long as he is listing NIB who would bid as any one with an FFL can also get them at the same price that he dose then sell them at 10% over cost with no S/H or transfer fee you will save $$ by buying from your FFL

Thread Admin: Hagrid(13-0-0) Post#3 - Posted: 01/12/2008 at 14:38:43
Hagrid Yone and Cyro, You have both just made my point. My question is how is he getting away with breaking the site rules? Possibly his account of 9600 items has more importance than some of us who really use this site as AUCTION Arms. Trapper

Thread Admin: Hagrid(13-0-0) Post#4 - Posted: 01/12/2008 at 14:40:36
Hagrid Sandi has always been a pretty good seller and his,her, prices have been fair but the charges I mentioned put anything for auction over the price I can get at a dealer.

Seller: Hartwell Gun(835-1-2) Post#5 - Posted: 01/12/2008 at 17:34:29
Hartwell Gun Trapper-take a look at 8198817.(note the packing charge)I can't figure why this 10/22 it is so expensive.Maybe cause it shoots upside down or the shoes are included??LOL!!

Seller: tomon(48-0-0) Post#6 - Posted: 01/12/2008 at 18:05:15
tomon But what will I do with an upside down overpriced rifle?

Buyer: wrssr(10-0-0) Post#7 - Posted: 01/12/2008 at 20:53:24
(no avatar) Just one more thing to think about. When buying a used gun you get the famous 3 day full return policy. Buyers that dont have a ffl lic. get to pay for the shipping to them. Then if its not as described they get to pay the shipping fees back. Plus pay the ffl shop fees for getting the gun delievered and a fee to the ffl to get it returned. That can add over $100.00 for a gun that wasnt as described well. It really burns when I check the feedback and see a seller saying (I have a 3 day return policy) I know sometimes its real, but to see a seller hide behind that policy time after time. Well you have to figure where their is smoke their is fire.

Seller: AA-bob(3-0-0) Post#8 - Posted: 01/12/2008 at 21:39:40
AA-bob

If you inspect the item at your FFL's and never transfer it, you will avoid the FFL's transfer fees (If your FFL won't work with you on THIS one, find another FFL). Many seller's if asked will work with you on the shipping if you decide to return it (never hurts to ask before you bid or Buy it now). Remember, all bidders take these risks/benefits into consideration and discount their high bid before bidding so you're still on a level playing field.

If you buy several items and only return one, you can look at this as an average (if you do return one) and spread the cost over the items you were pleased with and didn't return. I'd be interested in hearing what buyers figure their average cost per item is when spread across all items purchased.

If you look at a seller's neutral feedback issued before bidding, it should give you some indication of the number of returns he's taken back. A seller must issue a neutral feedback in order to receive a re list credit for returned items.

Buyer: wrssr(10-0-0) Post#9 - Posted: 01/13/2008 at 06:09:20
(no avatar) Bob The only trouble with returning guns as i stated is you loose so much money just to take a peak. The netural feedback you see is the buyers that are willing to accept $100.00 or more loss and have nothing but a bad taste to show for it. Im refering to the sellers that hide behind the negative feedback section with the constant 3 day inspection rule. They claim just return it over and over again and ofcourse this doesnt cost them a thing. The buyer tries to salvage something by accepting a inferior product in alot of cases. Im not saying all sellers (most sellers are great) are this way but anyone can see how some sellers with a great number of negative use this to rip off a big number of buyers. When this excuse gets excessive maybe its time to police AA a little ?

Thread Admin: Hagrid(13-0-0) Post#10 - Posted: 01/13/2008 at 06:34:01
Hagrid I love this handling and restocking fee you see every once in awhile.I could make a fourtune selling a rifle with just enough wrong with it to get it reurned. Lets see 10 bucks on the shipping free return 4to 10% restocking fee on a 1000.00 rifle couple of time and then sell it in store makes a tidy profit on that one gun. Theoritical of course. All BS aside, most of the sellers here and elsewhere are in the business to make money. but must keep the public happy or they go belly-up.Too many shady sales and nobody buys. but it does happen and it is a shame because just as one deadbeat newbie gives all newbies and bad name, all seller get the same brand when a buyer gets screwed and they see the same ad from another seller. I still question the generic photos and we may not have item auctioned in store at time of sale. A direct violation of site rules trapper

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