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Thread Admin: garold5756 (2-0-0) (Last 10 Posts) Posted: 04/21/2006 at 10:30:44
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Thread Title: "More on the 44 gauge Iver Johnson"
(no avatar) In my previous thread I had made mention of a 44 Ga. I. J. shotgun. Bill was kind enough to reply to state that it was a 44 caliber, not gauge. This morning I saw my buddies collection of I. J.'s and he has both a 44cal. and a 44 gauge. Yes, I saw it with my own eyes. One was marked 44 gauge. ser.# 570xx, and pat. date Jun 15 15. Could it be that it had been mis-marked by accident? I did not have time to measure the bores to see if there was a difference. Thanks for your replies, Garold
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Former Seller: axolotl(49-0-0) Post#1 - Posted: 04/21/2006 at 11:35:04
axolotl Quick calculations indicate that 44 cal and 44 guage are VERY close. A 44 guage ball would weigh approx 158 gr.s. Any body know how much a .44 cal round ball weighs? axolotl

Buyer: mitts(7-0-0) Post#2 - Posted: 04/21/2006 at 16:48:19
(no avatar) I'm not near my references, but I believe a .437 ball runs around 128 grains.

Buyer: b.goforth(5-0-0) Post#3 - Posted: 04/22/2006 at 09:58:00
(no avatar) i believe you will find the chambers are the same. early iver johnson & H&R advertizing sometime refered to the 44 as a gauge just like they sometimes refered to early 410 gauge instead of 410 bore. the barrel is still a 44 caliber smooth-bore not meant for 44 caliber rifle or pistol ammo. the action is strong enough for a ball shell loaded to shotgun pressures. in several of the early H&R catalogs the '44XL gamegetter ball load' is advertized as being a proper load their model 1915 410-44 marked single gun. it would be interesting to see pictures of the two marking side by side. bill

Thread Admin: garold5756(2-0-0) Post#4 - Posted: 04/22/2006 at 14:09:34
(no avatar) **** I'll see if I can get a photo of the two shotguns side by side. Bill,It would be a nice addition to your new book on Iver Johnsons. But I suppose it's already at the printers. The owner of these guns has spoken to you a time or two by phone. He is Virgil from Mobridge, So. Dakota, if you may recall. Thanks again for your kind posts. Garold

Buyer: b.goforth(5-0-0) Post#5 - Posted: 04/23/2006 at 19:44:33
(no avatar) yes it too late for this edition, but i am now just getting started with in depth research on the iver johnson longarms. just very general info on longarms in the new edition, different model and when they were produced. no serial numbers. bill

Buyer: josiewales(27-0-0) Post#6 - Posted: 04/27/2006 at 05:20:04
josiewales Quite a number of years ago I used to own a IJ 44 cal shotgun single shot.I never shot it and if I recall I think I did put a regular 44 cal shell in the chamber to see if it would fit.I sold it at a gun show and wished I still had it along with a bunch of others.When your young a person doesn't realize what you have til its gone.

Former Seller: OLD RATTLER(103-0-0) Post#7 - Posted: 04/27/2006 at 05:38:58
(no avatar) Yep; Been there and done that josie.

Former Seller: CIMARRON(48-0-0) Post#8 - Posted: 06/17/2006 at 18:35:19
(no avatar) Don't we wish we were all 18 and know what we know now?

Former Seller: Joes Custom Guns(172-1-1) Post#9 - Posted: 06/17/2006 at 19:18:04
(no avatar) Nynn...What are you talking about,when I was 18 I knew more then any DEER or my DADDY(:-))(:-))

Former Seller: eastbank(17-0-0) Post#10 - Posted: 06/18/2006 at 03:29:46
(no avatar) my dad would tell me titbits of wisdom when i was growing up, and when i was 18 i thought my dad was the dumbest man on earth, when i turned 21 i wondered how he got so smart in 3 years. one i didn,t understand then, but do now. ( when you work for someone, work like you are working for your self. and you will always have work. ) eastbank.

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