M-1809 Potsdam Musket, Neisse 1827, Civil War Use

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(January 23, 2009 11:36:16 PT)
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(January 29, 2009 11:36:16 PT)

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M-1809 Potsdam Musket, Neisse 1827, Civil War Use

Crisp and Attractive M-1809 Prussian or “Potsdam” Musket, Marked Neisse 1827, Civil War Import, Rare Original Ramrod Fits Perfectly

You may have seen this listed by me before with the ramrod sticking out a couple of inches, which was a real distraction. I have fixed this - it now goes all the way down the channel. For some reason, there are old photos still at the end of this auciton showing the ramrod sticking out or withdrawn - it does not look this way now - the ramrod fits just right under the barrel. This is one sharp musket. This is an attractive Civil War import, made at Prussia’s armory in the city of Neisse in 1827 as flintlock, and converted to percussion for use in our Civil War. This is a Model 1809 Prussian Musket, but these are often called Potsdam Musket by American collectors, since so many of them were made in the city of Potsdam, and so that that marking on their locks.

The Union imported about 100,000 of these smoothbores of about .71 caliber in 1861-1862, when the need for arms was greatest. The soldiers wanted the more modern Springfields or Enfields, and exchanged these “pumpkin slingers” as soon as they could. Many were sent to western troops, who always seemed to get the leftovers. David Noe, a historian of imported Civil War imported arms, notes that these were among the first arms to arrive from Europe, beginning in August, 1861, and reaching 42,000 delivered by the end of 1861, a time of critical shortages of arms for both sides of the conflict.

These are now being reproduced in flintlock by Pendersoli, and Dixie Gun Works is offering the repro in flint for $1,200. You can have a real one for less than that.

The beech stock is complete and attractive, with no wood missing. You can still see clearly the Prussian markings in the wood, even one large script T that is raised up above the wood on the flat opposite the lock – clear proof that this was never sanded. This beech wood often shrinks and splits, but this shows very little, only a short crack or two three at the butt. Usually these have chips and splits at the ramrod channel, but this does not. It is a very attractive stock. The line you see across the buttstock is not a crack, just wood grain. Both sling swivels are present.

The metal has a smooth patina to it, and the markings are easily read, including the 1827 date on the barrel and the Prussian Crown over Neisse on the lockplate. The rear sight is still present. The brass furniture has not been shined. The brass on these muskets has an uncommonly attractive color to it if you should decide to shine it up.

This has the original ramrod, which has a very thick shaft – these Prussian muskets came with the heaviest ramrods of any musket I have ever seen, much thicker shafts than the US model 1842 ramrods that you often see “married up with” these Prussian Muskets and so the replacements are much too narrow, and rattle around in the large sized ramrod channel. This is an original ramrod, full length, and matches the gun perfectly. When I first got this gun, it stuck out an inch and a half. I cleaned 181 years of dust and dirt out of the bottom of the channel, and now the ramrod fits perfectly.

This is a very attractive gun, and these are in demand these days since they can be shot in the NSSA matches, and reinactors are using these as part of their impressions.

This gun is being offered locally and elsewhere, so consider using the buy-it-now feature if you want this gun.

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Payment by money order or cashiers check; buyer pays actual shipping cost; No overseas sales, or sales to New Jersey, NYC, Hawaii or other locations which restrict such sales; item may be returned in 3 days, so long as unfired, not taken apart, and in same condition as shipped; not sold as a shooter; you must have inspected before attempting any such use.
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