1809, 1832 Prussian Potzdam Potsdam Percussion Rifle / Musket - Antique

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HIGH BID: $320.51
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Auction: 11191567

Manufacturer:   1809, 1832 Prussian Potzdam
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Auction Start:
(July 5, 2012 10:17:36 PT)
Auction Ended:
(July 19, 2012 18:05:00 PT)

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Guns For Sale - 1809, 1832 Prussian Potzdam -- Potsdam Percussion Rifle / Musket - Antique

LSB#: 120417EM59

Make: Potzdam

Model: 1809 (Date Stamped 1832)

Serial Number: 6054 (?) this is the only mark we can find, and it is on the butt plate.

Year of Manufacture: 1832

Caliber: .75 Caliber Smoothbore

Action Type: Percussion Musket (Converted From Flintlock)

Markings: There are Crown proof marks almost everywhere and the number “77” stamped on numerous parts. The breech is stamped “1832” on the top, with proof marks and a number obscured by the stock. The tow of the butt plate is marked “1832” and the rear of the plate is marked “6054”.

Barrel Length: 41”

Sights / Optics: The gun is mounted with a blade sight on the forward barrel band.

Stock Configuration & Condition: The stocks are lightly colored and oiled wood. I cannot determine if the finish of the wood is original or cleaned in the past. Cracks are starting in numerous places, including the upper tang, front and back of the lower tang (amongst other places). The LOP measures 13”. The stocks rate in about Fair overall condition.

Type of Finish: None

Finish Originality: Brass and Patina

Bore Condition: The bore is rough and the rifling is either very worn or this is a smoothbore. There is plenty of erosion in the bore.

Overall Condition: This gun retains about 0% of its metal finish. The balance of the finish shows a mottled patina on all steel parts, with scattered erosion, heavy pitting toward the breech and smooth metal towards the barrel. The brass has discolored throughout, though areas of frequent contact have been polished a bit by the contact. The Screw heads are worn, but almost all are serviceable. The markings are visible except where the pitting is severe. Overall, this gun rates in about Fair (Relic but functional) condition.

Mechanics: The action functions as designed, though the nipple is broken. We have not fired this musket.

Box, Paperwork & Accessories: None

Our Assessment: This is actually an interesting rifle, and though not American made certainly has a connection to the story of America. From someone with more knowledge on these rifles than us… (

“These muskets were part of the European trash the Feds bought to keep them out of CS hands. Check out the biography called Marcellus Hartley: A Memoir, by Judith Howe. Marcellus Hartley was dispatched to Europe to procure arms for the Federal Ordnance Department. It contains correspondence from Hartley to Sec of War Stanton in the appendix which reads (in part) "...the South has agents purchasing arms... I think it my duty to prevent them from falling into their hands... If we succeed in shutting the Confederates off from a supply of arms they must succumb." This is October 1862. He initially balks at the Prussian guns at $7 a piece because they are larger bore than the US musket standard of .69 caliber, the size which he has been instructed to buy, but he ends up purchasing 50,000 of them anyway. For a frame of reference, Enfields were then running $11 from Belgium (Liege), $14.50 from London and $13.50 from B'ham. He refers to the Prussian muskets as "72/100", but some were actually up to .80 caliber. A few, maybe 5,000 of the first lot from Stettin were rifled and sighted. Then I believe of the additional Prussian arms he purchased from Berlin, about 20,000 were rifled. The rest were smoothbore. He also bought muskets in Vienna, but I believe those were the Austrian model 1842 smoothbore tube locks.

CA Legal or CA Private Party Transferable: This antique rifle can be sold in California.

Payment and Shipping Instructions:

UPS Insured shipping will cost $40. To reduce the likelihood of damage during shipping, we may disassemble long guns by removing stocks when it is possible & easy and will not damage the wood or screws. We will also break down takedowns. We have had problems with rough carrier handling breaking the stocks at the wrist, and since we have begun to disassemble, we have not had any breakage. All parts will be individually wrapped. If you would prefer to not have your item disassembled, please let us know as soon as you win the bid. We package all merchandise for shipment on the Monday following the sale.

Your item will be shipped within 1 week of receipt of good funds, usually the next day. You will receive an automatic notification with a tracking number upon shipment, to let you know that we have received funds. If you are in Southern California, you are welcome to pick your item up and complete the transfer at our shop in Simi Valley (M-F, 8-5).

This gun can only be shipped to a verified adult, and it will be shipped from an FFL. It is your responsibility to ensure that the gun is legal to own and receive in your area. Please include a copy of your driver’s license with payment; this is for proof of age. We are FFL dealers and comply with all Federal, State and local laws.


Full payment on non-layaway items is required within 14 days. We accept Cashiers Checks, Money Orders, Cash and Personal Checks. No Credit Cards or electronic payments are accepted. To help us properly apply your payment, please indicate what item you have purchased when payment and/or FFL are sent. If you would like to be notified when we receive your payment, please obtain a tracking number from your carrier. We receive about 40 checks a day and do not have the staff required to email everyone when we receive checks.

CA Sales tax applies to CA buyers (7.25%).

Layaways are offered on all items, requiring a 20% non refundable down payment within 7 days of the auction’s close and the balance within 60 days. We do not require prior notice to place an item on the layaway. No returns are accepted on layaway items and the item will be considered abandoned after 60 days.

Successful Bidder Instructions:

You will be invoiced by the morning following the sale. This invoice will include totals for the sale and all instructions.

If you win an item and are not willing or able to complete the sale, you will be liable for 5% of the sale price.

Returns (less shipping) are accepted within 3 days of when the item is delivered with signature confirmation. Returns are very costly for both the buyer and for us, so please ask all of your questions before bidding and please be sure you can legally purchase this item.

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No gun should be fired without being examined by a competent gunsmith.

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