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| Seller: AA-bob(3-0-0) | Post#1 - Posted: 07/13/2009 at 17:41:05 |
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gman08, I think we agree. See our Terms and Conditions regarding the buyer's obligations
Of course what you allow buyers to do outside of these requirements is up to you. I generally advise sellers that if you haven't received payment within 10 days of contact, post a negative, get your relist credit and relist the auction. We do not have a means to contact the next highest bidder, however on a relist, where you have requested a relist credit, the next highest bidder on the previous auction does get an email notification that the item has been relisted with a link to the auction. |
| Seller: Bubba J(70-0-0) | Post#2 - Posted: 07/13/2009 at 19:32:58 |
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AA-bob,
We do not have a means to contact the next highest bidder, however on a relist, where you have requested a relist credit, the next highest bidder on the previous auction does get an email notification that the item has been relisted with a link to the auction. I still strongly believe that the next highest bidder should be offered the opportunity to purchase the item at their last bid price before it is re-listed providing that the seller and buyer agree to that bid amount. After all, it was the bid by the deadbeat that prevented the next highest bidder from winning the auction. If the buyer and seller do not come to an agreement on the last bid amount, then the seller can re-list the item. Personally, I see absolutely nothing wrong with this approach. FR&G |
| Seller: AA-bob(3-0-0) | Post#3 - Posted: 07/14/2009 at 17:21:40 |
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Foxfire Rod and Gun, we used to think that was a good idea too. However, the amount of suspicions raised of auction "shilling" by the 2nd highest bidders and the resultant bad blood between sellers and buyers over those allegations and suspicions convinced us to not follow that route. |
| Seller: Bubba J(70-0-0) | Post#4 - Posted: 07/14/2009 at 19:53:13 |
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AA-bob: I guess that I am in the slow mode once again. Could you give me a brief senerio where and how what you described would take place? Thanks - FR&G |
| Seller: beerdrynkr(10-0-0) | Post#5 - Posted: 07/15/2009 at 16:08:46 |
| (no avatar) | HMMMMMM is this the same gman who is my ffl in Ga.. Your absolutely right. I just sold some ammo and am realizing the buyer has no intention of buying. He said he was in Iraq and could not get to a computor , but he had plenty of access to out bid a real buyer. I have no way of contacting the next highest bidder and I feel A/A should give us the option of contacting the next highest bidder instead of having to relist the item Why should we be held back on our funds when there are people out there who can and will purchase our items in good faith and pay for them in a timely manor. |
| Seller: Sportsmanssupply(5732-0-4) | Post#6 - Posted: 07/15/2009 at 19:16:05 |
| (no avatar) | Mr Manley, Here's your scenerio. Winning bidder A is a deadbeat who wins a $500 value firearm for $475. He outbid losing bidder B by $5. The auction was for one week. For 6 days bidder B had his proxy bid of $470 entered and on the last day the next highest bidder had a $370 bid. With 2 hours to go until the auction end bidder A who is a deadbeat enters his $5,000 proxy bid and he becomes the lead bidder now @ $475. Bargain bidder C is a sniper style buyer but he skims by the auction never bidding at all because he sees this auction as no bargain. Here is where the argument begins with the second bidder getting the option to buy.He wants it at the price before bidder A came into the game,$375. Even though sniper C would've bid $450 if the bid wasn't there. I hope people can see the potential for disagreement. Does this make sense? |
| Seller: Bubba J(70-0-0) | Post#7 - Posted: 07/15/2009 at 21:11:34 |
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SPORTSMANSSUPPLY: OK, here goes. I'll try to grab second gear and get up to speed, but I might not make it. Bidder A (deadbeat) has out bid bidder B (losing bidder w/ $470.00 proxy bid) by $5.00 with a $475.00 bid. Next highest bidder with $370.00 bid has been out bid by bidder B's $470.00 proxy bid making bidder B now second highest bidder. Tough stuff for sniper bidder (c). Deadbeat makes $5,000.00 bid, wins auction and doesn't pay, offer goes to bidder B with proxy bid of $470.00. Second highest bidders bid wins. Am I missing something while I am lighting up my tires???? FR&G |
| Seller: Sportsmanssupply(5732-0-4) | Post#8 - Posted: 07/16/2009 at 02:24:19 |
| (no avatar) | Second highest bidders won't pay. He'll claim the deadbeat was merely a shill bidder for the seller. He was a phantom bidder so the last REAL bid was $375. That's what he feels he should pay. Thus the argument.IMHO |
| Seller: Bubba J(70-0-0) | Post#9 - Posted: 07/16/2009 at 06:02:05 |
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SPORTSMANSSUPPLY: OK, I understand what is perseived as a potential problem. However, I really really think that the second highest bidder should re-think his position and be thankful that they were offered a second chance to purchase the item at the highest amount that they were willing to pay reflected by their proxy bid. Having said that, my initial statement in Post #2, ( If the buyer and seller do not come to an agreement on the last bid amount, then the seller can re-list the item.), then the deal is off and the seller relists the item. Therefore if the second higest bidder, and/or, the seller can not reach an agreed to price, the deal is off, no fault / no blame. How could this not work if the proxy bid was the maximum amount the second highest bidder was willing to pay and both buyer and seller have to agree to this amount before the deal is complete? FR&G |
| Buyer: Phil38(5-0-0) | Post#10 - Posted: 07/16/2009 at 06:48:07 |
| (no avatar) | Shill bid or not if "b" put in a bid he thought was fair to him what difference does it make. Making EVERYBODY wait for a "Do Over" don't seem fair to all parties involved. In my short time on here I have seen stuff get relisted and not get as many bids because I think folks are leery of the sale with "Why, What's wrong with it" thoughts. |