Thread Title: "Who can I ship through to send the guns I sold on AA?? UPS says no, help......"
I conquered the FFL thing ok, now am ready to ship..UPS says no firearms unless they are shipped to a manufacturer or gun shop for repairs. One site says UPS will ship air, so I called UPS again and they still said no. should I send gold clubs instead?? any help out there??
IF IT IS A RIFLE OR SHOTGUN TAKE THEM TO YOUR POST OFFICE AND MAIL THEM TO YOUR BUYER. YOU WILL HAVE TO SHOW THE COPY OF THE FFL THAT WAS SENT TO YOU WITH THE PAYMENT. IF IT IS A PISTOL THEY WILL MAIL IT AT POST OFFICE BUT IT HAS TO GO EXPRESS MAIL. THEY WILL EXPLAIN ALL TO YOU.
Sounds like you went to one of the private UPS stores, same as a Mail Box Etc type of store. They will not ship guns of any kind. If you take it to one of the actual UPS shipping centers they should take it. But like the other person just said. I would suggest taking it to the Post Office.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TELL THEM THAT, UNLESS IT IS TRUE. YOU HAVE THE COPY OF THE FFL HOLDER AND HIS ADDRESS AND THAT'S WHERE IT IS GOING TO. MAKE THE RECEIVING ADDRESS ATTENTION TO: JOHN DOE, YOUR BUYER, GOING TO THE ADDRESS OF THE FFL HOLDER.
Why mess around with a outfit that is notorious for breaking and stealing guns? Their employes are the ones responsable for starting the overnight express extortion fee for shipping handguns. They are the ones who stole a Gov`t shipment of pistols. Use USPS. They are safe and it is legal to send all firearms through them. They are very co-operative in dealing with firearms. Just follow their rules and you will not have any problems.
It is my understanding and based upon discussions with my local ffl and the sign up at the post office, ONLY FFL's can ship Handguns USPS! If someone would care to quote the regs that say otherwise I'd be most appreciative.
Daveomatic- there are very few exceptions to the FFL-USPS pistol rule. It is covered is USPS Pub 52, under 432.1 (such as pistol sent to officer of US Army, shipped to FBI Laboratory, etc) otherwise it IS pretty much FFL to FFL for HANDGUNS. LONG guns are different. When making a mailing, you need to complete USPS Form 1508, notice of prohibited mailing. I live in a small rural area- when I first got my license, I stopped down at the PO, introduced self to postmaster, showed license, explained from time to time I would be shipping/ receiving. They thanked me for coming in, and have had NO problems. Check out www.usps.com yourself for the real word.
A NON FFL HOLDER CAN NOT SHIP A HAND GUN USPS... period! UNLICENSED PERSONS, paragraph B8!!!!!!!
A NON FFL HOLDER CAN SHIP A LONG GUN USPS.
AS FOR UPS those idiots don't have a clue from one location to the other; one of the major grocery store chains here in Ne booted them out of their customer service department...!!!!
There is an ATF web site which will be able to help you learn how to ship a firearm...no matter what though, you as a non FFL holder can not ship your firearm to a buyer who is not an FFL holder. You must ship your firearm to an FFL holder where buyer can go, do all the paper work then take possession. On the site you can validate an FFL before shipping.