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|Buyer: 5thcommjarhead(38-0-0)||Post#1 - Posted: 08/11/2007 at 19:09:37|
|JCG - When I took survival training at Camp Pendleton, the instructor who taught us how to skin and eat a snake kept repeating "Bury the head!" after you had killed the snake because it remained deadly. Later on, when we ran the escape and evasion course, I managed to kill a rattler and dutifully buried the head. We ate the snake later after we had successfully evaded the "aggressors". Some say that rattler tastes like chicken, but I thought it was more like boa constrictor.|
|Former Seller: OLD RATTLER(154-0-0)||Post#2 - Posted: 08/12/2007 at 01:25:46|
|(no avatar)||Old folks say the snake don't die till sundown.|
|Former Seller: Firelane(140-1-0)||Post#3 - Posted: 08/12/2007 at 01:44:00|
|(no avatar)||Suspect there's some truth to that. I've seen a snapping turtle head snap at flies hours after it was cut off.|
|Former Seller: OLD RATTLER(154-0-0)||Post#4 - Posted: 08/12/2007 at 08:20:23|
|(no avatar)||NAW; Puttin all folk lore aside. I don't know much about other snakes, but I have fooled with Rattlers all my life. I even have an old sow snake over at the old BACKWOODS PLACE that has denned in the same place for the last 4 years . I can go over there any time I want to and pick her up real gentle like and rub her head and talk to her. She is a Timber Rattler and of good size. I never have any rats or varmints around the cabin . All the kids know where her range is and know to leave her alone . I have never seen her coiled or agitated. Course , I have been making sure she gets plenty to eat for the last three years.
Back to the real reason a head can still bite you though.
The venom pockets are still active until all nerves have completely left the head and then the venom starts to dry up. Most cases reported of a head BITING someone , is actually not from biting at all , but from someone accidently sticking themselves with the fangs.
The body however is a different story. I had a big male rattler I had moved several times to get him away from the cabin because he was a mean and aggressive snake. Unusual temperment for a rattler.
On Christmas Eve last year , it was a sunny day and he appeared back. I shot his head off with a .45. When I started to cut the rattlers off he struck back from an outstretched position and hit a shovel blade I had in my hand, almost knocking the shovel out of my hand.
The way to tell if a rattler is dead is that they flatten out and have no round appearance. All the nerves are dead at this point.
The head and venom pockets can remain lethal for up to three days, all depends on weather conditions and environment.
Never freeze a rattlers head and get it out and think it is safe. When it thaws out the venom is as potent as it was when it was first frozen.
The best thing to do with a rattler if you don't know what you are doing is to leave them alone.
Most rattlers are not aggressive at all and care nothing about biting a human , unless in self defense. They are the safest poisonous snake I know of . They only want to be left alone to try and survive. Just like you and I.
|Seller: Fyrd(14-0-0)||Post#5 - Posted: 08/12/2007 at 10:05:00|
|(no avatar)||I am a member of a historical recreation group and one summer our group did several public demonstrations at local events. The regional zoo also had demonstrations at many of the same events. Their representative give the schpeal about more people dying each year from lightening than snakebite, therefore snakes aren’t really all that dangerous and should be left alone. Late in the summer, after the little kids had left I quietly told him that there was another way to interpret the statistics: Our extermination program is being successful.:):):) With all due respect to other opinions, I grew up on about 40 acres of unbroken sod in SW Kansas; rattlesnakes, prairie dogs and burrow owls. All the rattlers there were ill-tempered and we killed all snakes on sight. Still do. The concept of a “safe poisonous snake” is oxymoronic in my experience. YMMV.|
|Seller: eastbank(23-0-0)||Post#6 - Posted: 08/12/2007 at 11:00:23|
|(no avatar)||if they are around the house or cabin where the children play they are killed, if not i leave them alone. except for snow snakes,i catch them in the winter and put them in the freezer and in the summer i wind them around my beer cans to keep the beer cold,then i leave them go. eastbank.|
|Former Seller: Kan Do Arms(70-0-0)||Post#7 - Posted: 08/12/2007 at 12:05:37|
|(no avatar)||OLE RATTLER BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THAT OLE SOW RATTLER. YOU FEEDING HER AND TAKING CARE OF HER COULD BE DANGER TO YOU. WHEN YOU FEED ONE, YOU AND SHE DOES A BONDING THING TOGETHER. WHEN I WAS A KID I FEED THIS OLE SOW RATTLED FOR A LONG TIME. IN THE WINTER MONTHS SHE WOULD DISAPEAR. IN THE SPRING SHE WOULD BE BACK. ONE DAY MY GRANDMA FOLLOWED ME TO FEED THE SNAKE. MY GRANDMA GOT MY UNCLE TO SHOOT HER. I GOT VERY SICK. MY GRANDPA WAS INDIAN AND USED HIS BAG OF MEDCINE ON ME, I GOT WELL. I STILL FEEL A LITTLE STRANGE IN MY STOMACH WHEN I TALK ABOUT THIS. I AM 63 AND 1/2 YEARS OLD NOW. JIM PLEASE BE CARFUL.|
|Former Seller: OLD RATTLER(154-0-0)||Post#8 - Posted: 08/12/2007 at 12:25:46|
|(no avatar)||A lot of truth in your statement KAN DO. Not many folks understand it though.|
|Seller: axolotl(144-0-0)||Post#9 - Posted: 08/12/2007 at 16:55:51|
|Snakes have a purpose, They were out here to take care of rats and mice and other disease carrying critters. This would be an unpleasant world without them. I`ve lived in snake country all my life and have never seen a snake that wasn`t as interested in avoiding me as i was of them, Years ago, i would kill them on sight but a long time ago i came to terms with the fact that it was my fear not thier danger that drove me. I would not think of trading my cottonmouths, copperheads, canebrake rattlers, or coral snakes for the vermin that occupy our sections of our cities and states and use up perfectly good oxygen that belongs to the rest of us. axolotl|
|Buyer: 5thcommjarhead(38-0-0)||Post#10 - Posted: 08/12/2007 at 17:34:17|
|For the reasons noted above, I'd never kill a snake not a threat to me.
However, I'd outbid an Old Rattler in a heartbeat.