GunAuction Forum - Logging Out Guns that are sent out then returned?
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|Former Seller: bobstat(78-0-0)||Post#1 - Posted: 10/12/2006 at 13:30:01|
|(no avatar)||sounded like a legit. question until the end|
|Former Seller: Joes Custom Guns(203-1-1)||Post#2 - Posted: 10/12/2006 at 14:08:17|
|(no avatar)||I guss that you could just drive over and tell him how you want it done,He just might show you the door|
|Seller: Manlicher(59-1-1)||Post#3 - Posted: 10/12/2006 at 14:26:08|
|(no avatar)||I don't think it is a problem as long as you have his FFL and your acquisition/disposition book is logged properly. He may have a problem if the ATF sees your log and then wants to see his log. Cheers|
|Former Seller: Panhandle Gunslingers(193-0-0)||Post#4 - Posted: 10/12/2006 at 14:55:42|
You can't be held legally responsible for someone else's actions. I have my boat loaded handling my own business and paperwork without sticking my nose into someone else's. If you shipped the gun, you have his FFL. If he ships it back, it shouldn't matter to you, but as Manlicher said, it could to him. My opinion is that the various departments of the BAFTE aren't working that closely together and unless the gun was used in a crime, the error would never come to light. Also, what would you use for proof? A copy of my log book? My gut tells me you aren't entitled to it. Why create more paper?
|Former Seller: OLD RATTLER(128-0-0)||Post#5 - Posted: 10/12/2006 at 15:55:23|
|(no avatar)||Lady ; You impress me with your knowledge and common sense .
And I ain't easily impressed.
|Thread Admin: Wild West Guns(646-1-3)||Post#6 - Posted: 10/12/2006 at 17:02:22|
|(no avatar)||I just knew we would see Mr. Cyro here...get a life :)|
|Thread Admin: Wild West Guns(646-1-3)||Post#7 - Posted: 10/12/2006 at 17:04:48|
|(no avatar)||Good points LadyG...on the other hand there are tons of ATF scenarios that start with "What If".......and your right, I wouldnt give someone else my log book, wouldnt expect that from them. Maybe the simple solution is to require that all returns be accompanied by an copy of an FFL.....just as a reminder|
|Former Seller: c3shooter(27-0-0)||Post#8 - Posted: 10/12/2006 at 18:02:56|
|WWG- Umm- you SENT it to a FFL- who gave you his FFL license- or at least the license number. You logged it out- and it gets returned by the same FFL you sent it to. Am I following this right so far? If so, you logged it out to that FFL, and logged it in as returned by that FFL- whose license you already have- right? Disclaimer- I am not a dealer- am a hobbyist collector/ 03 FFL- when I recieve a weapon, I log it into my bound volume. I am not concerned with whether the selling FFL logged it out of his book properly. I worry about my paperwork, he can worry about his own. Or did I miss something- I'm a little slow tonite.|
|Seller: Petesguns(243-0-0)||Post#9 - Posted: 10/12/2006 at 19:00:15|
|WWG, I think as long as you logged it out, and then logged it back in, it really dosen't matter WHAT the other FFL did, as long as you have the trail covered.|
|Former Seller: Panhandle Gunslingers(193-0-0)||Post#10 - Posted: 10/13/2006 at 05:09:42|
|(no avatar)||Maybe the simple solution is to require that all returns be accompanied by an copy of an FFL.....just as a reminder
If you shipped the gun, you have the proper paperwork to receive it. This would be unnecessary, but as I said, I have my own boat loaded without worrying about other people's paperwork.